That video and that hamster picture have really brightened up my day! Your dog is freaking adorable.
Our dog is like that too. She gets really excited about things and does silly stuff, but as soon as the cat comes over, it's all business, you know, cuz the cat might stealz my bone. Funny creatures.
Your workout looks awesome. I'm glad you found a way to make it work for you and something you don't hate. Nothing sucks more than dreading workouts!
Looks like an awsym workout...and damn girl...look at that deadlift!!!
I admit it - I LOVE doing that lift!!! I worry a little that I'll get too ambitious and hurt myself, but I try to be super-careful about my form... it's just so fun!
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Wow that looks like a great workout. Way to go on the deads! I think I dread the B workout in stage 5 because its hard for me to feel like I am working hard. I think we all like to challenge ourselves and feel like we did something productive - and that substitute B workout you did looks pretty darn productive!
I felt so much more productive, like I was really working out instead of bopping around. What bugs me about 5B (I've thought a lot about it) is that the majority of what Alwyn put in it seem to me like exercises that I would do at higher reps (balance or pre-hab kinda things). So to do them at 4x4 with lots of rest makes no sense to me. On 4x4, I want to pull HEAVY weights. I'm not Alwyn and I know he had a good reason (???) but... that was my frustration. Give me the 5B stuff at sets of 15 with 45-60 seconds rest and I might not hate it, ya know?
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That video and that hamster picture have really brightened up my day! Your dog is freaking adorable.
Our dog is like that too. She gets really excited about things and does silly stuff, but as soon as the cat comes over, it's all business, you know, cuz the cat might stealz my bone. Funny creatures.
Your workout looks awesome. I'm glad you found a way to make it work for you and something you don't hate. Nothing sucks more than dreading workouts!
Thanks 'bout the dog - he is WEIRD! I showed the video to people at work and they all asked what's wrong with him !! He is a character.
And thanks about the workout too... I spent years designing my own workouts (for me and my clients) - but I never had much skill at the big lifts and full-body moves like deads and squats... so this is TEH AWSUM that I'm learning how to incorporate that kind of stuff in... still used Alwyn's template (I did them today as A, B1 B2, C1 C2, etc) but... yeah... I'm babbling here
Tummy not happy today. Ate salmon over salad for lunch (at a restaurant), and I wonder if "rare" was not the way to go . Had a sprint moment at the store about an hour ago - threw everything we had selected to my DD and ran for the restroom . Bleh. Hope this settles down soon...
Probably no workout tomorrow cuz I have to work. Might try to sneak in SS cardio - if not, definitely doing a long one on Sunday...
Mostly doing this for reassurance... I hate the scale and KNOW all the reasons it sucks... but I still want to understand how a perfectly respectable downward trend can just go PFFFFT for no known reason!!!! Yes, I'm better off than a month ago, and I'm due for remeasurements next week, but... ???
Someone tell me I'm not nuts (or feel free to tell me why I AM nuts!)
The last 2 days have been a too-big bounce up and I don't know or understand why . I can see the BIG trend is ok, but... I just don't get it, and I think I get scared that this is "it" and I'm never gonna lose another pound or it's going to go even higher again... I was fat once, i can do it again, ya know?
If you're going to weigh daily you really have to ignore the odd fluctuations. I'm looking at my own 9 week trend and although it's a very definite downward trend I still see pieces like the clip I attached. The lines are 5lbs apart. So I went up 3.4 lbs in two days. I was not off plan, and nowhere near my period. It took 4 days to come off, and spiked up a little before dropping down again.
I rarely even look at the daily information. I log it and keep the 9-week trend on the screen. As long as it's moving down I'm not worrying about it. I do admit that I sometimes look at the per week info, but it changes day to day. I look at the number from December, and as long as it's relatively stable I don't worry about it.
How are your macros? I'm asking because of the water retention of carbs. I'm currently in Repair where I have to eat 55% carbs and most of that has to be from starch. My numbers are all over the place because of water weight. The more starch I eat the more water I retain. I friggin' hate it and I go up and down 2lbs every other day.
Also, I find when I'm sleep deprived I go up as well.
I would say, don't just look at your macros, but look at what was in the macros. Was it more starchy than usual? An extra banana or potato or whatever. It might have something to do with that. Look at your sodium. Make sure you're logging your zero calorie drinks and all of your water. If you find yourself drinking extra liquid, it's probably due to some carb or sodium increase. I find it hard to log zero calorie, things, but if you're that intent on figuring out what happened, that might be a good place to start. Plus calorie free drinks tend to contain a lot of sodium to make up for the missing sugar.
Know that I'm with you girl. I'm all over the place too. I see a nice downward trend on that chart, so just keep up the good work and you'll get there!
If you're going to weigh daily you really have to ignore the odd fluctuations. I'm looking at my own 9 week trend and although it's a very definite downward trend I still see pieces like the clip I attached. The lines are 5lbs apart. So I went up 3.4 lbs in two days. I was not off plan, and nowhere near my period. It took 4 days to come off, and spiked up a little before dropping down again.
I rarely even look at the daily information. I log it and keep the 9-week trend on the screen. As long as it's moving down I'm not worrying about it. I do admit that I sometimes look at the per week info, but it changes day to day. I look at the number from December, and as long as it's relatively stable I don't worry about it.
Thanks Anne... I know you're right. I just need some TLC today cuz it's hard to see it happen even though I know it's irrational fear driving my emotions... Even I have to admit the chart looks ok - unless I look JUST at the past few days
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How are your macros? I'm asking because of the water retention of carbs. I'm currently in Repair where I have to eat 55% carbs and most of that has to be from starch. My numbers are all over the place because of water weight. The more starch I eat the more water I retain. I friggin' hate it and I go up and down 2lbs every other day.
Macros - run between 40/30/30 and 45/35/20 (I try not to let fat go down to 20, but sometimes it does). I eat very little starch (not none, but not much). I eat veggies, whole grains, some fruits (not usually banana). I do think maybe today is water retention from yesterday's lift, but that doesn't explain yesterday's morning weight gain (pre-lift).
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Also, I find when I'm sleep deprived I go up as well.
Look at your sodium. Make sure you're logging your zero calorie drinks and all of your water. If you find yourself drinking extra liquid, it's probably due to some carb or sodium increase. I find it hard to log zero calorie, things, but if you're that intent on figuring out what happened, that might be a good place to start. Plus calorie free drinks tend to contain a lot of sodium to make up for the missing sugar.
Know that I'm with you girl. I'm all over the place too. I see a nice downward trend on that chart, so just keep up the good work and you'll get there!
No sleep prob since DH switched to the hard mattress in the guest room 2 nights ago (he hurt his ribs, our foam mattress isn't helping for now). No zero-cal drinks - I ONLY drink H2O, with lemon in it sometimes. I really watch sodium too, as I've seen how evil it can be with the scale (note the "beef jerky incident" this past spring )... so no, no sodium rushes lately.
Thanks for the support... I wish someone would (could?) post here with an answer... I know if I keep doing what I need to do I'll get there - but there's a little part of me that is scared, ya know?
I might ask Leigh about renting a body bugg - just so I can get that info and add it to my arsenal... I THINK I've figured out my deficit calories, but I am worried about maintanance and how much to add cals back in when I am done losing fat (is there such a thing? God I hope so!)...
I was wondering how your revised workout would go! Nice job
I love deads too - and there's a woman at work who shares our love for them. I was talking to a guy at work about lifting (he lifts as well) and mentioned them to him. He said he'd never done them before but that they're "basically just picking something up and putting it back down, right?"
yeah. basically! :p
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Great workouot, Bytsi! Everyone has given great advice and suggestions regarding the scale issues. Your chart looks great! Extrapolate it downward over the next hunk of time (a month, 3 months, etc.) and you can see the progress even more! It's hard work both physically and mentally...you can do it!! I know you can...if you can dl 165#!!! Wow!!!
I was wondering how your revised workout would go! Nice job
I love deads too - and there's a woman at work who shares our love for them. I was talking to a guy at work about lifting (he lifts as well) and mentioned them to him. He said he'd never done them before but that they're "basically just picking something up and putting it back down, right?"
yeah. basically! :p
ROTFL!!!
Uh... isn't that what WEIGHT LIFTING is generally about?!?!? wow...
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Great workouot, Bytsi! Everyone has given great advice and suggestions regarding the scale issues. Your chart looks great! Extrapolate it downward over the next hunk of time (a month, 3 months, etc.) and you can see the progress even more! It's hard work both physically and mentally...you can do it!! I know you can...if you can dl 165#!!! Wow!!!
Hi Pauline - thanks... I want/need to extrapolate that chart... like I said (repeatedly... I'm sick of myself!) before, my fear is that the curve is going to change directions and head up (or stall out)... I need to be sure that won't happen. Not sure I'll ever feel SURE, ya know?
I spent some time today looking at laptop desks for treadmills (lol!) - found some interesting stuff at a wide range of prices. I think I might just get a big ol' shelf or acrylic desktop and some rubber shelf liner and make a removable laptop shelf. I can walk (slowly) while I surf / post and get some NEAT in - one thing I noticed is how much I love reading this board, but I'm SITTING (albeit bouncing sometimes on a physioball) while I do it!
one thing I noticed is how much I love reading this board, but I'm SITTING (albeit bouncing sometimes on a physioball) while I do it!
That's the problem isn't it? I think that's why I cut back on the diet board this month. Too much time at the keyboard means you're not doing other things. I'm not sure about the treadmill and the laptop... I'll let you experiment first.
Meh, you're right, at least it's not up. I know the feeling though. You are so upset that it went up, and then the next day you're hoping it will go back down to where it belongs, cuz you're still stuck on the fact that it went up. So frustrating. Damn you gravity!
DDR def qualifies as NEAT if you are still learning and the harder you work, the more workout it is. I sucked at first too, it just takes time, like all things. It's a killer workout now, but I've been doing it for a little over 4 years. That brain to foot connection takes awhile But it's a fun process imo.
Let us know if you find any deals on the body bugg. I was interested in them after I saw them on biggest loser. I think it would be a cool thing to do after I'm done with Repair, although, I have to wear a suit all day, so I'm not sure how I could wear it during the day. Maybe in the winter time when we get to the baggy sweater phase of the year.
I think what you need is someone else to weigh you daily and do a 4-week trend for you. They can tell you only that it's down, up, or holding.
Nah... I don't see that happening. Only person who could prolly do that would be DH - and the last remaining secret I keep from him is my actual weight
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Let us know if you find any deals on the body bugg. I was interested in them after I saw them on biggest loser. I think it would be a cool thing to do after I'm done with Repair, although, I have to wear a suit all day, so I'm not sure how I could wear it during the day. Maybe in the winter time when we get to the baggy sweater phase of the year.
Well... I was gonna do ebay, then I thought "if it breaks, I'm screwed" so I went to 24 hour fitness. I committed, I paid - and it gave me an error and said to do it again. So I did. FOUR times . Gave up, wrote them nasty email (NO freakin' phone # anywhere, no location within flying distance of my home!). Might buy from bodybugg's site (for $25 more plus whatever they ship for) - but then I was reading more on BR.com thread (it's over 100 pages long!) and some say the wristwatch is stupid, others say it's great - so then I decided to think about if I would buy the wristwatch part or not...
Is the website's failure to sell it to me a sign that I shouldn't get one?
ETA: I also was thinking about waiting til the smaller one comes out in "late 2008" but - that could be 6 months or even more if it is delayed, so... I dunno!!!!
So now you have from 24 hr fitness and it doesn't work? wtf? Is it new? If that one doesn't work, will one from the site work? I dunno. Let us know how it works out, but the whole thing sounds totally frustrating. Good luck
Jess - I never GOT the one from 24 hour fitness cuz their website sucks so bad and wouldn't let me buy it!!!!!!!!
But - I went back to ebay (decided the "sign" was that I shouldn't overpay for the damn thing!) - got one for almost 1/2 the new price. I'll have to buy the subscription ($99/year) but that's ok... I decided that for the price on ebay, it was worth the relative risk. Plus 24 hour fitness just plain pissed me off.
I will keep checking ebay for the watch thingy, but I can start without it...
AND I found this awesome laptop table thingy (called an airdesk) - it's like a lamp-post that can adjust up to 5' tall and it holds your laptop on a tray so you can put it in front of / over the front of your treadmill and stroll while surfing the web - YAY!!! Can't wait til it arrives!!! Gimme more NEAT!
Eats are right-on today - actually I'm pretty low on kcals for some reason (around 1300 AND that's with 60 min SS stairmaster this morning). DH and DS are making s'mores on the grill and I'm tempted but not enough to go out there... might eat a little more today, but I'm feeling optimistic again after my freakout. But I reserve the right to be mad if the scale is mean to me again...
one thing I noticed is how much I love reading this board, but I'm SITTING (albeit bouncing sometimes on a physioball) while I do it!
Ya, I am with you on this one...realized I spent WAY too much time reading and not much time doing anything else!!! ARGH! I realize if I am at home, I am on the computer so....in the spirit of summer, we have been going out a lot to the pool at least and then whatever else I can find to do with the boys in 97 degree hotness!!!! haha
Anyhoo, trying to keep up with my log, but realize my goals are better met if I just read and check in at a "scheduled" time for me hehe like late at night when no one else needs me (READ: always hearing the word "MOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYY !!!!???") LOL
Your workout looks great though and those are some heavy deadlifts! WOO HOO! So, troubleshoot is going well or not so well???
Nik
When I do Alwyn's workouts (which I LOVE cuz I'm a sick little hamster ), I overeat afterwards, and I also just SIT cuz I'm too tired (and sore) to do my NEAT. Recovery is hard for me after his lifting and also after HIIT. EPOC is NOT enough to justify it for me (I easily lose any benefit by decreasing NEAT and eating more).
I am so excited to get my bodybugg, but I already know some of what it'll tell me - for me, it's almost more of a constant reminder / challenge to get my calorie burn up. At least that's my plan!
I'm no longer trying to do two things at once, so for now I'm hoping to retain some LBM but not focusing on building a lot more. I can't lose fat / weight following NROLW 100% because the recovery is too demanding for me. I can, however, still do what I love. So I'm lifting NROLW 2/week instead of 3, and doing the lower set options (in stage 5, that means 3 sets instead of 4). I'm only doing the BW matrix (as required on 5A) and no other HIIT. I'm doing SS cardio at 65-75% HR, focusing on increased NEAT, and some moderate interval cardio on days when I'm shorter on time (HR 80%-ish instead of 90+%). I'm trying to just plain move around more.
Doing this, I'm able to sustain eating lower kcals and hitting my macros and not bingeing at night after lying on the couch. I can work in small treats without blowing my entire program...
Oh - and I'm taking AT LEAST one full rest day each week!
I WILL go back to lifting more intensely, but not til my bf% is lower and I hit my goal weight/size. Then I will slowly increase eats (clean eats), all the while monitoring with body bugg and the scale and tape measure and calipers, to increase LBM as carefully as I can without increasing bf%.
C1: Dumbbell Single-arm Overhead Squat - 3x25#/10# (still hurt, still no attempt to raise weight )
C2: Dumbbell Incline Bench Press - 3x45#
D1: Plank - 90, 90
D2: Reverse Wood Chop - 2x50#
Body Weight Matrix: 2:39. Not so far in, realized I FORGOT MY INHALER (usually inhale before my workout). Oops... duh... Wheezed for quite a while after, did NOT do second round. Explains why I was breathing harder than usual for the whole workout .
Hey g-friend! Nice to be back in your log again and see that you are still changing things up. Until you find what works for you, change is good.
Why are you doing 1-arm pushups? I cannot imagine why to do those except the "cool" factor. Also wrt overeating after lifting... Are you carb loading before you lift? I don't mean eating a dozen doughnuts but getting about 40 or so g of good carbs in you before you workout? I always do that and then follow up with more carbs. It seems to make the big hungries go away.
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Hey g-friend! Nice to be back in your log again and see that you are still changing things up. Until you find what works for you, change is good.
Why are you doing 1-arm pushups? I cannot imagine why to do those except the "cool" factor. Also wrt overeating after lifting... Are you carb loading before you lift? I don't mean eating a dozen doughnuts but getting about 40 or so g of good carbs in you before you workout? I always do that and then follow up with more carbs. It seems to make the big hungries go away.
Welcome back - glad to have ya' in my log again
1 -arm pushups - mostly cuz they're fun and I was sick of the other variations . There was originally no real push exercises in that workout (if memory serves), so... added in for fun.
I try to eat a healthy carb / protein snack before lifting (donuts - did someone say donuts?!?!?), and then of course I do my shake after with protein powder and milk and either fruit or pb mixed in... It's not like a huge "OMG I'm starving" kinda feeling after a workout (well, sometimes it IS that too) - Mostly I just notice, later, that I am still hungry after I should be done for the day, and much less able to just sit back and say "ok, you're hungry, calories are used up so deal with it". I tend to get more "ah, you lifted, go ahead... have a little more..." -- which, having read so many logs and Leigh's info, makes sense to me now.
Wow. I've missed a lot being on the road lately. First things first--I'm glad to see that changing things up is working for you.
Secondly, 1 arm pushups! Dang girl. That's really impressive. I'm certain I'd smack my face on the floor and never get back up.
And, lastly, your dogs are too cute. I love the little dance. It totally reminds me of my own spaz of a pup.
Hi Marty, Jes & Beach Plums (wow, don't know your real name!) - thanks for stopping in! I wish I knew when the bodybugg was gonna arrive - I'm like a little kid waiting for santa here!
Today - 25 min moderate (80%-ish) stairmaster interval program. Wanted to do more but overslept a bit (oops!) and had to rush.
I've become readdicted to starbux this week... here's the weird thing (rationalization - yeah!) -- the am caffeine makes me SO much more likely to be active and get tons more NEAT, plus I'm so much less cranky, that I think it's worth it. My fave drinks are between 110 -130 kcal, and I can work it into my day without much shuffling... I realized I've been all squirmy (in a good way) and jogging up the steps instead of plodding... So... that's my latest news
Scale is still mean ... I came down just 1/2# yesterday from that 3 day too-high plateau... same weight today as yesterday... I'm in pms range now, but still - seems like that "spike" was awfully early for it to have been all pms! Bleh. Stupid scale.
!! He is a character. 
. Had a sprint moment at the store about an hour ago - threw everything we had selected to my DD and ran for the restroom 
. Bleh. Hope this settles down soon...
. I can see the BIG trend is ok, but... I just don't get it, and I think I get scared that this is "it" and I'm never gonna lose another pound or it's going to go even higher again... I was fat once, i can do it again, ya know? 
)... so no, no sodium rushes lately.
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