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Old 05-27-2008, 08:30 AM   #361 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi-

I lost 50 lbs on Weight Watchers and I have been thinking along the same lines as you, why was it so easy back then and so much harder now? And like you, I do not remember struggling with constant hunger like I do now when I try to cut. I just keep telling myself, veggies, veggies, veggies. I buy stuff like those bags of broccoli and cauliflower you can just microwave in the bag and you can eat a whole bag for 100 calories. I also find cherry tomatoes very filling and a nice snack.
There was a discussion in Tom's (stingo) log a while back about whether it is counterproductive to work out really hard when trying to cut. The concept was you are tearing your body down so much and make yourself so hungry you are unable to cut cals like you need to. I've been wondering about this for myself, if I need to actually lower the intensity if I want to stick to a cutting diet.
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Old 05-27-2008, 08:33 AM   #362 (permalink)
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Sounds like you've got a good plan layed out in front of you. I can't wait to see how it all works out for you and track your progress.

I agree with kfisherx. I'm more hungry on my non-workout days too. I've always thought that it was because I work out in the evening, usually after dinner, then have my pwo shake and a small snack before bed. I try to get extra calories in during the day for my workout days, just so that I have the energy to complete a workout. But my calorie difference between the days isn't as significant as some of the other people in these logs.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:23 AM   #363 (permalink)
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Hey Bytsi-

I lost 50 lbs on Weight Watchers and I have been thinking along the same lines as you, why was it so easy back then and so much harder now? And like you, I do not remember struggling with constant hunger like I do now when I try to cut. I just keep telling myself, veggies, veggies, veggies. I buy stuff like those bags of broccoli and cauliflower you can just microwave in the bag and you can eat a whole bag for 100 calories. I also find cherry tomatoes very filling and a nice snack.
There was a discussion in Tom's (stingo) log a while back about whether it is counterproductive to work out really hard when trying to cut. The concept was you are tearing your body down so much and make yourself so hungry you are unable to cut cals like you need to. I've been wondering about this for myself, if I need to actually lower the intensity if I want to stick to a cutting diet.
Hang in there! It sounds like you are doing great on planning and packing stuff.
I agree with this, totally. I'm always starving when I'm trying to lose weight. And especially now that I'm trying to do this repair, I'm just a mess. I guess that's why she has you doing absolutely nothing.
I have to say that I am usually not as hungry after a workout. I don't think you're really trying to build muscle with HIIT, so I would say just have some carbs before and after, nothing drastic, just more about timing than extra calories. Maybe a banana over what you should be having would be good? You can't bulk and cut at the same time, so I think you should probably make your decision about what's more important to you right now. Is it muscles that you can't see and will dig down to later? or Is it getting down to a goal weight and then slowly building the msucle from there until you're happy?
It's a tough call to make. I think we'd all like to do both at once, but I feel like it's just chasing your tail. You're doing tons of work, but you're not going anywhere.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:42 AM   #364 (permalink)
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It sounds like you have a good plan! It's awesome that you've been able to take the books and put them to work for you.

I never got into the two different calorie level thing either - I was always hungrier on my rest days, too.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:49 AM   #365 (permalink)
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Down another .5# this morning!!! Whooo hoooo!!!
Of course the pessimist in me is expecting a massive rebound gain (which is likely, to some extent), but I'm starting to like the Google 15 because it really ignores those outliers and shows you a 2-week trend.

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Anyhow, it sounds like you're on the right track. Now you just have to follow through. My issue is that i would get all that stuff done and then never pack my lunch or something stupid!
Oh and if you want to come over to my house and prep me for the week that would be super.
I am so NOT a good planner, but I made a point of doing it. Considered it NEAT instead of sitting around the house time... but I almost didn't have time this morning to throw together the few last-minute things... screeched into work with about 30 seconds to spare!

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As far as eating. I don't really worry about off and on days and eating. I am way more hungry on rest days than on workout days so eating more on workout days doesn't make sense to my body. I just make sure I average a certain amount per day for each week and eat when it feels right to do so. I might be wrong but I think the eating for work days versus rest days is a level of figuring that you do after you understand what your average daily burn is over a period of time.
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Sounds like you've got a good plan layed out in front of you. I can't wait to see how it all works out for you and track your progress.

I agree with kfisherx. I'm more hungry on my non-workout days too. I've always thought that it was because I work out in the evening, usually after dinner, then have my pwo shake and a small snack before bed. I try to get extra calories in during the day for my workout days, just so that I have the energy to complete a workout. But my calorie difference between the days isn't as significant as some of the other people in these logs.
I'm always hungrier on lift days, but I lift early. That's going to change next week (yay!!!) and I've been wondering if my hunger will be more evening / next day with that change. The only reason I was varying it was because NROLW says to eat 200kcal higher on lift days... Hmmmm... maybe I'll split the difference. For now though, I'm leaving it alone.

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I lost 50 lbs on Weight Watchers and I have been thinking along the same lines as you, why was it so easy back then and so much harder now? And like you, I do not remember struggling with constant hunger like I do now when I try to cut. I just keep telling myself, veggies, veggies, veggies. I buy stuff like those bags of broccoli and cauliflower you can just microwave in the bag and you can eat a whole bag for 100 calories. I also find cherry tomatoes very filling and a nice snack.
There was a discussion in Tom's (stingo) log a while back about whether it is counterproductive to work out really hard when trying to cut. The concept was you are tearing your body down so much and make yourself so hungry you are unable to cut cals like you need to. I've been wondering about this for myself, if I need to actually lower the intensity if I want to stick to a cutting diet.
I think it was "easier" on WW because our bodies (at least mine) were so deconditioned that any change, even with some slip-ups, made a big difference. It's that whole "last 10#" thing - it's easier for a 350# person to lose 20# by walking than a 150# person to do the same thing, right? sigh... but life really truly is SO much better now than when I was fat and sedentary.

As for cutting/bulking... I am definitely aiming for cut. But I don't think lifting NROLW-style is a bad thing. I won't see the gains I might see if I were eating more or if I was eliminating cardio, but I think it'll help me minimize any lean-tissue loss (hopefully I won't lose any!). Then again, if I stall-out, I'll reassess .


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I agree with this, totally. I'm always starving when I'm trying to lose weight. And especially now that I'm trying to do this repair, I'm just a mess. I guess that's why she has you doing absolutely nothing.
I have to say that I am usually not as hungry after a workout. I don't think you're really trying to build muscle with HIIT, so I would say just have some carbs before and after, nothing drastic, just more about timing than extra calories. Maybe a banana over what you should be having would be good? You can't bulk and cut at the same time, so I think you should probably make your decision about what's more important to you right now. Is it muscles that you can't see and will dig down to later? or Is it getting down to a goal weight and then slowly building the msucle from there until you're happy?
It's a tough call to make. I think we'd all like to do both at once, but I feel like it's just chasing your tail. You're doing tons of work, but you're not going anywhere.
Hungry sucks... I agree. But somehow, with the scale at least considering behaving, it's more motivating and I'm doing better. I know I CAN do this (I changed from a fat couch-potato to a relatively strong athletic person, right?). I just have to stop letting little things creep back in too much once I get there.

As for cut/bulk - what I said earlier... I'd rather maintain what muscle I can for now and focus on getting rid of fat. If I don't get those results, I will do something else, but for now NROLW is so much fun (except for the stage 3B workout!!!) and I love doing it, love lifting. I hate low-intensity workouts, so it'd be hard for me to do anything else. I could always go to stage 7 or to NROL fatloss, but I'm not ready to do that yet. Probably once I'm done NROLW I'll see where I need to go.

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Food is on-track so far... but the 1 lactaid pill did NOT help my stomach handle the cottage cheese. Ugh. I love cottage cheese, but... IF I get up the nerve, I might try it one more time with 2 lactaid pills. Otherwise, just gonna cut it out completely.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:52 PM   #366 (permalink)
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Down another .5# this morning!!! Whooo hoooo!!!
Of course the pessimist in me is expecting a massive rebound gain (which is likely, to some extent), but I'm starting to like the Google 15 because it really ignores those outliers and shows you a 2-week trend.
Congrats on another day showing a loss! I'm starting to see a trend!

What's Google 15???
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:02 PM   #367 (permalink)
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Bytsi, since I am normally NOT a daily weigher and now I am weighing daily for a couple of reasons....I am loving the Google 15, too!
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:36 PM   #368 (permalink)
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Congrats on another day showing a loss! I'm starting to see a trend!

What's Google 15???
Google 15 is this cool weight-chart (named for the "freshman 15") - you can google it (lol!) and add it to your desktop. You enter your weight daily, and it tells you your sorta average trend weight... so outlier weights (like a 2# salty dinner spike) don't have as big an impact when put into the Google 15. I'd link it but I'm being technologically lazy tonight cuz it's on my work desktop and not at home (where I am now) .

Food is on-track today again! But my stomach is still not happy from that cottage cheese earlier . My NEAT wasn't great today - I was kinda dragging from this morning's lift, plus I had actual work to get done and I can use my tummy upset as an excuse... but I did bounce on a ball instead of my desk chair for part of the day... I'm actually looking forward to next week when I can lift AFTER work (which will be mid-afternoon) instead of early... wondering how that'll effect energy levels and appetite... I think I'm turning into my own science project .
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Congrats on the weight moving in the right direction! That is awesome.

Cheers to becoming a science experiment, because at least it means you can do things and check the results instead of trying everything and not seeing any!
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Ooh, this is where it starts to get fun!! I love being my own guinea pig but, in your case, I guess you'd be your own hamster.
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I use that excuse myself to justify all the, um, questionable dietary choices I make sometimes Nah, it really is fun(ny) to see people's reactions when they ask what I'm doing (training- and/or diet-wise) and I say that I'm just experimenting (whenever I'm in a transition period, like right now). They look at me like I'm some kind of sexual deviant--well, nah, nevermind, that's another thought for another thread
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Plan for today: get some NEAT, stay on-track at 1500kcal of clean low-GI food, karate tonight. If karate is exhausting, I'll take tomorrow as a rest day. If it's mild and I don't really break a sweat, I'll do HIIT in the morning tomorrow.

I went to bed hungry last night , but feeling smugly superior to DH . Of course that was after I almost killed him (and I should get some kind of prize for restraint!!!). I was so hungry but I really want to stick to my plan for now, and I know I'm hungrier on lift days (came in at 1670 kcal, 35/35/30)... so what does he do? After whining about his middle-aged-man belly (he's a runner, but a stocky build - he really needs to be more consistent in lifting, instead of once a month!), he picks up a bag of tortilla chips and starts munching (and CRUNCHING LOUDLY) right in front of me . I just took the dogs and went up to bed before I killed him and then did something even worse like eating a bunch of chips .

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Congrats on the weight moving in the right direction! That is awesome.

Cheers to becoming a science experiment, because at least it means you can do things and check the results instead of trying everything and not seeing any!
Scale was same as yesterday, but I'm good with that. I knew it couldn't go into a freefall forever, and it's lower than it's been in a while.

Main reason I'm asking questions but not changing anything YET is that I want to be sure of the effects of what I'm doing right now. Next week will bring some changes anyway, since my schedule changes and my weights shift to afternoon 2/week and morning but not first-thing-still-asleep-morning on the 3rd day... gotta see how that effects diet / appetite and energy... plus I can add in a little more cardio on my former early lift days...

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I use that excuse myself to justify all the, um, questionable dietary choices I make sometimes Nah, it really is fun(ny) to see people's reactions when they ask what I'm doing (training- and/or diet-wise) and I say that I'm just experimenting (whenever I'm in a transition period, like right now). They look at me like I'm some kind of sexual deviant--well, nah, nevermind, that's another thought for another thread
Yeah... I'm thinking the sexual deviant vibe probably has nuthin' to do with your diet and exercise

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I went to bed hungry last night , but feeling smugly superior to DH . Of course that was after I almost killed him (and I should get some kind of prize for restraint!!!). I was so hungry but I really want to stick to my plan for now, and I know I'm hungrier on lift days (came in at 1670 kcal, 35/35/30)... so what does he do? After whining about his middle-aged-man belly (he's a runner, but a stocky build - he really needs to be more consistent in lifting, instead of once a month!), he picks up a bag of tortilla chips and starts munching (and CRUNCHING LOUDLY) right in front of me . I just took the dogs and went up to bed before I killed him and then did something even worse like eating a bunch of chips .
Totally sounds like something my husband would do! He complains about being slightly overweight and then eats a pint of ben and jerrys. He has nothing to worry about, but he is the worst enabler! It's so tough to be around that all time, believe me I know!
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Posted this under NROLW, but it probably goes just as well in my log...

We got a MedGem at work, so today I measured my RMR with it. Not 100% accurate because I hadn't waited 4-18 hours (yikes on that 18!) since my last meal . I figure since TEF is up to 10% of daily burn, I could take about o 10% off the number just to be "safe" (weird logic, but it's mine ).

Good news is I'm eating right where I need to be, if I believe this machine! It says my RMR is 1750, and to lose 1#/week I can eat 1550 kcal OR add exercise in. So - I'm happy because I'm eating at 1500/1700, which is pretty much exactly what it says I should be doing. I entered sedentary for my daily activity level and only moderate for exercise because I'd rather it underestimate my kcals than tell me to eat too much .

I felt bad for our intern, though - she got a RMR of 1380 and it said she has to eat around 1200/day to lose weight . I think she needs to LIFT (we're about the same height and I'm not much heavier than she is) and get some lean mass!

I might redo it if I can manage to skip breakfast and do it as soon as I get to work, but even with allowing for the error of not fasting before, I think I'm pretty good, and it mostly just backs up what I've been doing .

(and Jes - does your DH also buy all the crappy food you swore you weren't gonna eat and put it in the house after you tried to clear the house of empty calories? - cuz I think that is grounds for justifiable homicide, especially around TTOTM )
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(and Jes - does your DH also buy all the crappy food you swore you weren't gonna eat and put it in the house after you tried to clear the house of empty calories? - cuz I think that is grounds for justifiable homicide, especially around TTOTM )
I'm not Jes, and I don't have a DH, but my boyfriend is constantly showing up at my house with bags of delicious empty calories. Luckily for me, I can send him home with them too. It's just while he's there that I get the temptation.

Great on the RMR and calories. Sounds like you're off in the right direction.
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My RMR is pretty low, too. It seems like the older I get, the lower it gets...
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NO! I'm the one that goes to the grocery store and I have to bring him home empty calories or I never hear the end of it, so if it's in the house - and it wasn't gift for a holiday (vday or something like that) then I bought it. I try to only buy him the things I don't like, which works out well. I do not like toffee but he loves it, so I get him heath bars and toffee ice cream. It's the only compromise I could come to without going nutso.

That is sooo cool about the medgem thing. I would love to try get that done, but I guess the repair is sort of the same thing, it's just all experimentation.
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Back from karate... some intense moments but overall not a drenching exhausting workout. Partly 'cuz I was babying my knee (I posted in the injury section - did something to my knee just walking normally, and then it magically repaired itself 6 hours and lotsa limping later). So I was being a bit cautious... My upper arm on the right is BRUISED and purple... we were doing sweeps and I don't know WHAT they guy I was with was doing, but it felt like I was getting an awful rope burn to my upper arm / armpit area every time he swept me. When I got home and looked - YIKES - it looks awful .

I really want to workout tomorrow, but I will stick to my word - I went to karate and did get a little sweaty, so I'll take tomorrow off and REST. Somethin' tells me when the alarm goes off later than normal, I won't mind so much .

Food today was on target! 1503 kcal, 38c/37p/24f macros (141g protein). Volume helped - I ate raw veggies all day and didn't feel overly hungry

My boss moonlights as a gourmet baker. She brought in this chocolate cake thing today and everyone kept eating it, plus it was sitting out on the table in the middle of the break room. It stared at me the entire time I was eating my lunch, but I didn't eat one single little crumb. This was not easy, but I knew that even a little taste might just put me over the edge... Ya know - you'd think working in a fitness center might help avoid all the fattening treats - not so!

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I'm not Jes, and I don't have a DH, but my boyfriend is constantly showing up at my house with bags of delicious empty calories. Luckily for me, I can send him home with them too. It's just while he's there that I get the temptation.

Great on the RMR and calories. Sounds like you're off in the right direction.
You're lucky you can send him home! My DH ordered pizza tonight just cuz he was in the mood for it... He even got one with shrooms (my fave) "just in case" I wanted some. Does he NOT hear me saying I'm being strict, working hard, trying to account for every clean bite of food?!?!? I don't think he's trying to sabotage me, but WTF ?

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My RMR is pretty low, too. It seems like the older I get, the lower it gets...
Ah, but the strength training can help to reverse that! You're so tiny, you probably don't need much to keep you going... double-edged sword...

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NO! I'm the one that goes to the grocery store and I have to bring him home empty calories or I never hear the end of it, so if it's in the house - and it wasn't gift for a holiday (vday or something like that) then I bought it. I try to only buy him the things I don't like, which works out well. I do not like toffee but he loves it, so I get him heath bars and toffee ice cream. It's the only compromise I could come to without going nutso.

That is sooo cool about the medgem thing. I would love to try get that done, but I guess the repair is sort of the same thing, it's just all experimentation.
LOL about the junk food. I've been known to buy stuff I don't like for the same reasons (although I LOVE toffee!). I will get cherry pie or carrot cake (two things I can completely resist) for dessert if I have to provide one (or if I'm telling a guest what to bring). That makes it easier when I don't like the dessert, but those are about the only 2 things I can think of that I don't love (and even then, I suppose if I was FORCED, I could manage to eat some ).

I might try the medgem again without eating right before, but we'll see...
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #379 (permalink)
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Ok, I was gonna' quote you, but it would be the whole freaking post, so...

Owwwww on the bruises! But be like a man and go 'round showing them off and how beefcake you are! You know they do

Way to go on the rest! Imagine how much better the next workout will be because you were so ready for it.

Send the hubby on some long vacation! Get him outta of da' house Seriously, he's just trying to be nice, cuz he's afraid you'll kill him either way. Mine's the same way. We don't want it, they get it for us, we sneak some cuz we want or cuz we feel bad, and then we reinforce the behavior. I do it to my husband all the time, I've learned to just say no and ask him not to ask more than once. Also, no food gifts, unless it's Harry and David's fruit or something, because that is just tasty!

And finally...way to go on the cake! For me, taking one bite would be the end. I'm not that sort of person who can "get it out of their system". I just can't let it in and then I get over it. The less I let in, the less any of it bothers me. That's why every day I'm on this program, it gets easier and easier. Ofcourse, one lunch with french fries could make it all hard again, so I don't even dip my foot in the pool, I can't afford to. I want to do what Leigh says and get the fat loss over with. No more dragging it out!
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he picks up a bag of tortilla chips and starts munching (and CRUNCHING LOUDLY) right in front of me . I just took the dogs and went up to bed before I killed him and then did something even worse like eating a bunch of chips .

YES. My husband does this every damn night with a big bowl of cereal. I actually have to leave the room so I can't hear him crunch CRUNCH crunching away.

Good job avoiding the cake! That probably would've broken me.
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I'm with you guys on the goober hubbies. Mine's the same way about eating crap -- giant piles of crap. He's way overweight but, because he's also strong, he thinks it's okay.
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Hey Bytsi-
HAd to catch up on the 3 pages of posts I have missed! WOWZA! you have been a busy little hamster indeed! Hope you get this all figured out, then you can just give me your results to cheat off of hehe
keep up the good work, I am glad to see the scale behaving itself !!!
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PS- I get that same knee pain when I run/walk inclines of more than about 4%....think that had anything to do with it??
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Owie on the bruise! I've just noticed that my legs and arms are covered in bruises. The one on my thigh is explainable because I was helping someone move and used my thigh to bounce a heavy box up to stack it on top of another. I've always bruised fairly easily, but I seriously look like I was beaten with a rubber hose!! Is that a sign of too low protein or something? Anyone know?

I'm glad your knee is feeling better. I don't blame you for being cautious. Injuries are no fun when doing a planned workout program...

Have a great rest today!
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Bytsi,
Thank you for the tip on the Google 15. Sa-weet!
You are doing great in here. I say we ship these chip munching DHs to a chip-munching island, where they chip-munch all day long. We can visit once a week. (I have one, too but he is also a cheeseburger eating, Taco Bell loving, torturer)
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I'm with you guys on the goober hubbies. Mine's the same way about eating crap -- giant piles of crap. He's way overweight but, because he's also strong, he thinks it's okay.
Totally. My husband is a really good cyclist but he's carrying around an extra 20lbs he'd like to lose. I mentioned weight training as an option but he, and I quote, "doesn't want to bulk up." See, cyclists (ahem PROFESSIONAL CYCLISTS) aren't "bulky". Right, so you'd rather just be fat, honey? Okay! Good luck with that.
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You're lucky you can send him home! My DH ordered pizza tonight just cuz he was in the mood for it... He even got one with shrooms (my fave) "just in case" I wanted some. Does he NOT hear me saying I'm being strict, working hard, trying to account for every clean bite of food?!?!? I don't think he's trying to sabotage me, but WTF ?
BF does the same with ordering/buying food. I'm supposed to have dinner at his house tonight because he's got his son tonight, but I think I'm going to eat before going over there. I'm guessing he's going to make his favorite--white pasta with sausage. It's what he always makes. I can't eat that for so many reasons! And to top it off, he thinks he's being nice by cooking for us. BF doesn't seem to hear me when I say I can't have things with white flour, or high fructose corn syrup, or a lot of sugar, or whey.

Ok, I think I'm done with that rant. Anyway, good on the food yesterday. And ouch on the bruise. I'm always bruised, and half the time I don't know where they came from. I'm always excited when I can identify the source of the bruise. I'm borderline anemic (even though I take iron supliments and eat iron-rich foods, I'm still always on the edge), which explains the bruising--lack of iron.
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It sounds like you're doing great, Bysti! Even with the husband tempting you with pizza!

I can't have even one bite of the cake (or stuff like it), either. I pretend I'm allergic to it. Which I am in the sense that if I ate it, I'd feel like shit.

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Ok I DID IT! I did NOT work out this morning!!! And I work til 7 tonight, so no workout today. I did go for a 15 minute stroll just cuz it's so nice out, but it was probably around 3mph at most. I'm focusing today on maintaining my diet and NEAT. So far, so good.

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Owwwww on the bruises! But be like a man and go 'round showing them off and how beefcake you are! You know they do

Send the hubby on some long vacation! Get him outta of da' house Seriously, he's just trying to be nice, cuz he's afraid you'll kill him either way. Mine's the same way.

And finally...way to go on the cake! For me, taking one bite would be the end. I'm not that sort of person who can "get it out of their system". I just can't let it in and then I get over it. The less I let in, the less any of it bothers me. That's why every day I'm on this program, it gets easier and easier. Ofcourse, one lunch with french fries could make it all hard again, so I don't even dip my foot in the pool, I can't afford to. I want to do what Leigh says and get the fat loss over with. No more dragging it out!
Hey Jes - we are just so alike (sorry if I just insulted you ). I did show off my bruises at work this morning - I'm such a macho hamster !

And yeah, I know DH probably thinks he'd be in trouble no matter what - pizza for me or no pizza for me... but he DID call first and I DID say "I don't want any" - so why bring my favorite toppings (AND WINGS!)???

I can't do moderation with snacks... if I had a crumb of the cake, I'd have gone back for just one more little taste - all afternoon! And now I know how much that adds up so yes - let's get this fat loss over with!!!

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YES. My husband does this every damn night with a big bowl of cereal. I actually have to leave the room so I can't hear him crunch CRUNCH crunching away.
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Thank you for the tip on the Google 15. Sa-weet!
You are doing great in here. I say we ship these chip munching DHs to a chip-munching island, where they chip-munch all day long. We can visit once a week. (I have one, too but he is also a cheeseburger eating, Taco Bell loving, torturer)
Wassup with the crunching hubbies? I'm glad I'm not the only one who just cringes from that sound . Mine will even eat something "quiet" like ice cream or yogurt, then pour crunchy toppings on!!!

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Totally. My husband is a really good cyclist but he's carrying around an extra 20lbs he'd like to lose. I mentioned weight training as an option but he, and I quote, "doesn't want to bulk up." See, cyclists (ahem PROFESSIONAL CYCLISTS) aren't "bulky". Right, so you'd rather just be fat, honey? Okay! Good luck with that.
Yeah... I got nothin'. I guess we all have our rationalizations? Part of me gets it - I used to probably be like that (I'm fat but I still wanna eat this so I will) - but... ARGH!!!!!!!

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HAd to catch up on the 3 pages of posts I have missed! WOWZA! you have been a busy little hamster indeed! Hope you get this all figured out, then you can just give me your results to cheat off of hehe
keep up the good work, I am glad to see the scale behaving itself !!!

PS- I get that same knee pain when I run/walk inclines of more than about 4%....think that had anything to do with it??
Hey Nik - keep on readin' - I'm working on it. The knee? Not from exercise, just from plain ol' normal walking slowly... it's ok today though, so... hmmmmm.

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Owie on the bruise! I've just noticed that my legs and arms are covered in bruises. The one on my thigh is explainable because I was helping someone move and used my thigh to bounce a heavy box up to stack it on top of another. I've always bruised fairly easily, but I seriously look like I was beaten with a rubber hose!! Is that a sign of too low protein or something? Anyone know?
I'm not sure... I'm somewhat fairskinned, so I know I bruise pretty easily (but then I just look that much more impressive, right?). Otherwise - I'm not sure about your bruising, but it seems worth asking about just in case there's something really going on, ya know?

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BF does the same with ordering/buying food. I'm supposed to have dinner at his house tonight because he's got his son tonight, but I think I'm going to eat before going over there. I'm guessing he's going to make his favorite--white pasta with sausage. It's what he always makes. I can't eat that for so many reasons! And to top it off, he thinks he's being nice by cooking for us. BF doesn't seem to hear me when I say I can't have things with white flour, or high fructose corn syrup, or a lot of sugar, or whey.
I guess the theme for the day is "men just don't get it" - but at least we're not alone - seems to be happening to lots of us .
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Ok I DID IT! I did NOT work out this morning!!! And I work til 7 tonight, so no workout today. I did go for a 15 minute stroll just cuz it's so nice out, but it was probably around 3mph at most. I'm focusing today on maintaining my diet and NEAT. So far, so good.
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I did show off my bruises at work this morning - I'm such a macho hamster !
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I'm not sure... I'm somewhat fairskinned, so I know I bruise pretty easily (but then I just look that much more impressive, right?). Otherwise - I'm not sure about your bruising, but it seems worth asking about just in case there's something really going on, ya know?
Wohoo! I love getting to show off bruises at work. Especially the part where everyone starts to slow move away from you... (Except my boss keeps making comments about "having priorities" and stuff like that when I show him and tell him all the fun we had at BJJ. Pleh.)

I don't know about anything that would cause excess & unexplained bruising, though. (I wanted to say possibly anemia, but Wikipedia didn't back me up. Maybe some other deficiency? But I don't know...) I don't always remember getting all of my bruises, but at least I know where they came from
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THe CRUNCHING! THe CRUNCHING! I know it well! My husband actually tries to crunch quietly because I give him dirty looks when he eats his chips. It's pretty funny to see him sloowwwwly bite down...but not funny enough to quell the urge to beat him with the chip bag or something more substantial.
Pauline--I used to bruise like crazy too but I noticed recently that I don't have any bruises at all for once. The only difference in my diet is addition of fish oil. But I have heard that vitamin c is important for bruises. Strengthens cell walls or something. I do eat a lot of citrus lately since it's in season in my back yard.
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