Never 2 Late 2 Chase the Dream (it's better than liposuction) - Page 37 - JP Fitness Forums

realcdn · 05-29-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

1. I am now eating 8 or more times a day. I am taking my pre-planned meals and splittting them so that I am eating less per meal but eating more often.

I do this a lot, without really noting it. Morning, afternoon, and evening snacks are almost always split up. Even dinner really to a point where we have the main meal just before 7pm and salad may follow about 8pm. Hmmm, when I think about it there will be some days (today even, which is a lower cal day) where I'll eat maybe 10 times. Although I will let my hunger determine that in the end.

Maybe even 11 times today as I let the bulk food store convince me to buy something I hadn't planned on... skor bar. Okay, a piece of a skor bar (where else can you buy 15grams of something bad for you).

marthand99 · 05-29-2008, 12:58 PM

I do a lot of the things you listed to manage the hunger, too. (Except exercise, now, but I remember it helping.) I also rely on caffeine to get me through the early morning and afternoon hours and leave more food for the later part of the day when I can't do that.

You're doing awesome, Karla!

Bytsi · 05-29-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

You and others will be happy to hear that I experienced hunger yesterday. I know you don't want to see me fail but it probably feels good to see that I have the same problems that you have now.

Okay so now I have this new dilema and it is a big one to me. I cannot spend the whole day at work thinking about food. So I experimented a bit over the past days and have the following strategies to deal with this new problem.

1. I am now eating 8 or more times a day. I am taking my pre-planned meals and splittting them so that I am eating less per meal but eating more often. I love vegetables so keep fresh celery and peppers around for between meals snacking.
2. On days where this becomes over whelming to me, I will go out and do a 30 min jog or walk 2 or more times a day. I have found that moving at a nice easy pace (ss state) actually helps the hunger to go away for some time.
3. I am making sure my water/tea intake is at 1 gallon a day
4. I have enlisted the help of my little friends and started to take this stuff called "Hot Rocks" from the local body building store. I think caffeine would do the same thing for cheaper but this was easy to buy for me and so far very effective. The caffeine is causing me to have disrupted sleep a bit so I am having to manage when I take these.
5. I believe strongly that I have to adjust my macros a bit as I should not be too hungry at this point in time in my cut. Over the next weeks I will try to increase my fat a bit as that is where I am still quite low.
6. Am doing frequent shorter SS cardio sessions (45 min or so) and making sure I get HIIT in 1-2 times a week as well.

Also the scale seems to be stalled this week. I know it is not but it just seems like it is. This is the psycological game that happens when you are hungery I think. I want to drop calories again but I think I will not do that just yet. I will stay at my 1700 weekly avg for some more weeks and see what these other changes bring.

It is fixing to get ugly soon. I am right around 8lbs to go at this point.

Hey Karla - not happy to see you hungry - it sucks to be hungry! At least you know what caused it and hopefully you have "fixed" the problem... and I suspect you're so strong-willed and determined that you won't let hunger derail you!

I worked with a bodybuilder and he was the nicest guy you've ever met. Til he started his final cut for a show. Talk about Jekyl & Hyde! He became snarly and sarcastic and he never smiled or laughed anymore... We were so glad when his show was over!

I'm munching peppers and cauliflower as I type

. I'm finding that volume foods really are helpful...

Dunno 'bout "Hot Rocks" - I'm pretty much decaf myself... but for a while I had a strong Starbux addiction to the light caramel frappucinos (daily fix

) but I went cold-turkey just before I started NROLW. I sleep better, even though I only had them in the mornings... -- and I have more money now!

Good idea to increase fat slightly - my fat intake has been pretty erratic - on days I eat more "healthy" fats it can go to 30%, but otherwise it's around 20-25%...

And absolutely do NOT let that scale take over your life. You have seen it happen to too many of us out here... don't go to the darkside

!

Brentv · 05-29-2008, 03:48 PM

Hungry sucks.

I've gotten through that using carrots and celery and cups of hot herbal tea. You can pretty much eat and drink as much of that as you can stand without having a big impact on anything. Protein powder shakes are also not a bad snack at about 100 calories and 20-some grams of protein.

Frequent eating works really well.

When all else fails, that gnawing feeling just reminded me that I was on track and hitting my goals.

Brent

kfisherx · 05-29-2008, 05:12 PM

Well that was unexpected. Hunger problem is solved for me with the trip to the gym. I just returned from the trainer. Today was quad day. He noted that I had too much of a drop in strength for his tastes so I am increasing calories for awhile. I argued with him for awhile but he insisted that I am dropping strength too quickly and that will result in less than optimal end goal. He also got on my case AGAIN for that 12-mile run. Gawd I am sorry now that I did that....

I am starting to feel the pressure with the challenge to drop quickly and push it out so that I can finish strong. I am reminded that I made the decision to do this slowly (challenge be damned) and to do the healthiest way. He said this will be a 12-16 week thing. (sigh...)

Today was quad day again....

Warmup
20 min on tready at 135 avg HR (boring)
walking lunges 3x25

Squats
1x20x95lb (these were nice)
3x10 (135lb I was really shaky on these)

db 1 legged step ups
1x15 (20b) e
2x8 (25lb)e

Leg extentions
3x20 (???) - I didn't look to see where he set the plates

Building Lunges (Oh these are still a bitch)
1x10

So my cals get set to 1850 and I am not allowed to watch the scale for a couple of weeks. He did not specifically take the scale away from me but he wants us to track on trends of a few weeks rather than a few days.... Uggggh... This is so hard.

Oh well.... At least I can eat.

Bytsi · 05-29-2008, 05:30 PM

I like your trainer!

Remember the long-term goal... it's not about a contest, it's not about getting there NOW (although I certainly wish I could get there NOW!)... do it right, do it in a way that preserves all that hard work you've already put in (don't kill your muscle you built up already)... C'mon Karla - I KNOW you will do it, and do it with style!

ToniL · 05-29-2008, 05:53 PM

As always it is a great read in here Karla! What is a building lunge? (not that I want to find any new way to torture myself).
Tell me what you think of the Hot Roxx, I've looked at those but not too tempted as I get the jitters from Starbucks and not sure I could handle them.

Thanx for the inspiration!

Toni

kfisherx · 05-29-2008, 06:08 PM

Thanks Bytsi... I like my trainer too. He was very pateint with me today and realized that I struggled with the medicine that he dished out. He kept assuing me that my inner deamons where wrong and he welcomed me to go research this subject as much as I want. I told him I don't want to research it and that I would comply even if it killed me. We both laughed. Then he kept reiterating the calorie amount just in case I was thinking to change it between now and next week. His last words to me as he was walking down the sidewalk,

"Good job today" "Remember to get those calories up" "1850"

He is yelling this as he is walking away from me. Everyone on the street looked. I got it already... 1850.... Yeah, I know he is right.... Slow is better for me right now...

kfisherx · 05-29-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ToniL

As always it is a great read in here Karla! What is a building lunge? (not that I want to find any new way to torture myself).
Tell me what you think of the Hot Roxx, I've looked at those but not too tempted as I get the jitters from Starbucks and not sure I could handle them.

Thanx for the inspiration!

Toni

Toni see page 35 of my log. But don't do this at home.... It sucks!!!

Never 2 Late 2 Chase the Dream (it's better than liposuction)

The hot rox are like taking shots of caffeine. I can't tell if they do anything else really for me.

Silly Sally · 05-30-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

He is yelling this as he is walking away from me. Everyone on the street looked. I got it already... 1850.... Yeah, ...

Ha! I got a pretty good mental image from that!

Looking good as usual, Karla.

dillytl · 05-30-2008, 09:50 AM

Your trainer sounds awesome!!

One day at a time..................

Bytsi · 05-30-2008, 10:11 AM

Karla - I saw your post about your TB, and I'm so sorry... as a former rider (eventing, dressage) and lifetime horse-lover, I know what it is to lose a friend like that... you're in my thoughts today.

fengshway · 05-30-2008, 03:35 PM

hey karla, the gary fisher mendota arrives next week, and my next sprint tri for fun is june 22. I am psyched!

kfisherx · 05-31-2008, 01:14 AM

Thanks Bytsi.... It was one of the hardest things I have ever done in my life... I am into eventing too and this guy was a big sweet heart. I will write more about it and catch up later when it doesn't make me cry so much......

Today I did two short cardio sessions. One in the AM and one in the PM. In the AM I did a 30 min spin with HR at 130-138. In the PM I did a 40 min jog with HR at 130-140 and then finished up with a 25 min walk. It felt good to be outside in the fresh air all day. It somehow helped my breaking heart.

I was good about eating and drinking too and will soon go to bed to make sure I have rest. Food for last two days was 1855 kcals and macros at 39,39,22.

stephanie932 · 05-31-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

His last words to me as he was walking down the sidewalk,

"Good job today" "Remember to get those calories up" "1850"

He is yelling this as he is walking away from me. Everyone on the street looked. I got it already... 1850.... Yeah, I know he is right.... Slow is better for me right now...

Karla.........Maybe it took that last plug for 1850 to sit in your brain....even if you DID get. You came here and posted it because it totally got through to you. Now, you just have to keep seeing him yell that at you.

Like others have said, I like your trainer. He isn't worried about any prize or fast results, he wants whats best for you.......and that in itself is the greatest attribute a trainer can have......wanting you to succeed for YOU.

Keep those calories up.........you have many of us checking in on ya!