Right now I am munching on my fake chocolate ice cream. Just add coco power (I use dark from Hersheys) and some stevia to non-fat cottage cheese and blend until smooth like pudding. Put in freezer for about 2 hours and enjoy like ice cream... Ummmmm...
I might have to try this with some low fat CC
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I'm all about stuff like that. On workout days I make a cottage cheese / protein powder pudding for my pre-bed snack. My favorite is strawberry-banana.
The dark cocoa powder sounds awesome. I might try it and put a few drops of peppermint extract in there too.
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I tried just yogurt with Butter Toffee Mixed into it last night. It was not good (to me at least)
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What kills me is all the talk on this board about "cheat" meals. Who needs those when there are so many unique ways to have good foods. I used to hate cottage cheese and plain yogurt until I discovered they had no flavor and great macros. Now they taste like whatever I want them to taste like. I made a creamy curry sauce for my chicken the other week from cottage cheese as well. Good stuff....
Well, put it this way......life is to short, IMHO, to completely deny myself something for the rest of my life! So, for me, chocolate cake for a special occasion, a couple of hot dogs at the ballgame, or a big pizza, or some Ben and Jerry's Phish Food is what I call a "cheat" or a "reload". And, as long as it's only every few weeks, I'm happy and my body is happy. And, in those instances no cottage cheese or yogurt fakeout is going to work for me!
Well, put it this way......life is to short, IMHO, to completely deny myself something for the rest of my life! So, for me, chocolate cake for a special occasion, a couple of hot dogs at the ballgame, or a big pizza, or some Ben and Jerry's Phish Food is what I call a "cheat" or a "reload". And, as long as it's only every few weeks, I'm happy and my body is happy. And, in those instances no cottage cheese or yogurt fakeout is going to work for me!
Agreed (well, maybe not the hotdog part, but that's just me )
I met a woman who had lost 200# (without surgery). She hadn't had a bite of chocolate in over 4 years. Not one. Not even a single m&m. Not even dark chocolate ! I guess it depends on what's worth it to you... for Karla, she is happy with the substitutions and doesn't miss the real thing enough to bother eating it. For Jane, it's worth it in moderation, as a treat.
I don't want to imagine a world without chocolate in it ... can I eat that way all the time? No. I used to - I lived on candy, chips, fast food, restaurant meals (usually fried food with appetizers AND dessert)... and it showed. I was fat, unhappy, had high cholesterol and IBS (which magically disappeared when I started eating healthier).
It's all about choices. There are those who are content to say "food is fuel" and nothing more, there are those who consider cooking an art form and good food something to be savored as one of the great pleasures in life. It all comes down to whatever works for you -- and making choices that help you find the right BALANCE in your own life. With food and drink and exercise and everything else.
Guys... I was mostly "toungue in cheek" on my last post. Of course this fake crap doesn't make up for the real stuff. It is just funny to me that it has no flavor and so I make it be whatever I want it to be in order to get it into my system. On a more serious note, in some sick way it really does make the cravings go away for at least the moment for me.
What kills me is all the talk on this board about "cheat" meals. Who needs those when there are so many unique ways to have good foods. I used to hate cottage cheese and plain yogurt until I discovered they had no flavor and great macros. Now they taste like whatever I want them to taste like. I made a creamy curry sauce for my chicken the other week from cottage cheese as well. Good stuff....
It's funny, but to me yogurt has a taste (one I really don't like). I tried making yogurt cheese a couple of years ago and spiced it with lots of indian-type spices and still couldn't take it. I thought I could hide it with other flavours but couldn't. I made a cherry yogurt sorbet the other week. I took 1 cup of a homemade sorbet mix (canned) and mixed it with 1/2 cup yogurt. Although I can still kind of taste the yogurt I think I can get used to eating the mix. It was an attempt to use up the canned fruit mix with a few less calories.
I don't really think I have cheat meals. In the summer I may stray a little from my macros some days to include a little alcohol. I haven't actually tried to work any in at the moment, so I might still be able to keep the protein levels up depending on the evening meals. I've technically made nothing off limit, but there are plenty of things I'm avoiding (mainly junk food) since I lack the control to take them in moderation.
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I met a woman who had lost 200# (without surgery). She hadn't had a bite of chocolate in over 4 years. Not one. Not even a single m&m. Not even dark chocolate ! I guess it depends on what's worth it to you... for Karla, she is happy with the substitutions and doesn't miss the real thing enough to bother eating it. For Jane, it's worth it in moderation, as a treat.
I think it depends on your personal level of control. Back in late December I bought a small amount of individually wrapped dark chocolate. I thought since I was calorie counting I could work in a piece now and then. They were 30cals each, and quite dark (I didn't log what %). To be honest, I'm not sure I even liked them. 29 pieces later (870 cals) I realized that it was a stupid purchase not even a month into the calorie counting and I ended the day at 2800+ calories.
For some it's a compulsion. Maybe it can be controlled, maybe not. For the woman you're talking about, maybe one piece leads to another, and an uncontrollable slide. The silly thing about the chocolate incident for me is that I couldn't stop it. I should have chucked them, flushed them, but no, my solution was to finish them so that they would be gone. I know, not rational, but true. It led to another (worse) binge a few days later on my birthday. Somehow I've managed to get it in check, but not sure that I'll ever be completely trustworthy with some items.
So for some things I create better, healthier substitutes. Pizza is something we used to keep one or two in the freezer. Although acceptable calories they were too high in fat content. The newer version is higher in protein, lower in fat (carbs a little higher, but mine has more veggies on it). And you know something - I like it better. So, I'm somewhere in between. I'm working on the food as fuel, but deep in my heart I'm a foodie - I like good food. Luckily I'm a pretty decent cook, so I can create my own 'treats' within my daily plan.
BTW: Yesterday I logged a 1:20 hour run at about 10 (maybe 10.5) min mile pace. It was very nice and initially my body was really sore after the run but a few hours later, all was well. Today my hammies are still a tiny bit tender from Sat workout so am doing quads tonight and no cardio.
I envy that, a lot. I think somewhere inside me there's a runner. It may take a while to get there, but one day....
What kills me is all the talk on this board about "cheat" meals. Who needs those when there are so many unique ways to have good foods. I used to hate cottage cheese and plain yogurt until I discovered they had no flavor and great macros. Now they taste like whatever I want them to taste like. I made a creamy curry sauce for my chicken the other week from cottage cheese as well. Good stuff....
I kind of get your point. My thought is if you fit whatever you eat in your daily caloric intake, is it really a cheat??? If you count whatever you eat you either at too much or too little. Eating some "less than clean" food may make your macros off, but in the end if you maintain your calories I think its ok on occasion. I think some time we tend to obsess to much on one day of eating and not the whole week. I think you can make up a slight mess up on one meal over the whole week of eating good and solid workouts.
For some it's a compulsion. Maybe it can be controlled, maybe not. For the woman you're talking about, maybe one piece leads to another, and an uncontrollable slide. The silly thing about the chocolate incident for me is that I couldn't stop it. I should have chucked them, flushed them, but no, my solution was to finish them so that they would be gone. I know, not rational, but true.
Understood... absolutely. It's still all about the balance, isn't it? For some, that balance means "NO CHOCOLATE" because it sets off a slide... I can't do cheat days (or even full cheat meals) because I fall off the wagon. I can handle a little bite here and there (or even dessert sometimes), as long as it's mixed in with my day, so that's what I do... Balance doesn't mean that everyone can have treats - it means that we all have our own balance point for eating and exercising, and we have to find it for ourselves (through, in my case, lots of trial and error and I'm still not completely there!). FWIW, I just had to decide to stop buying beef jerky. Great l/f protein source, but I can't seem to stop at one serving (or even 2)... so I won't buy it even though I love it.
Glad you're figuring out what you can and can't handle...
And Karla - glad to know you were kinda sorta kidding - you're pretty super-human as it is with your discipline. If chocolate-flavored cottage cheese was as good as the "real thing" to you... I can't even imagine!!!
Actually Bytsi, I don't really like chocolate that much so cottage cheese with cocoa really is as good as the real stuff for me. That said, the creamy curry sauce and my fake pizza really do not cut it. We all have our little foodisms it seems.
I am with tcoy 100%.. It ain't a cheat if it don't mess with macros and calories over the period of a week.
Ah spring came again to Oregon with a blissful 70 degree evening. So I took a run. I did the 5.5 (ish) mile loop of hills around my house with my schnauzer. I PR'd in that I never once walked on the last 1.5 miles uphill. I did the run in well under an hour so I am thinking a 10.2 min mile run for me tonight. I'll take it. My goal on these runs is to not push my HR up too high. My trainer suggested I get a HR monitor and suggested that I look at the Polar brand but I found one on Woot for cheap that I bought instead. I am just now trying it out. Seems to work okay for the basic stuff.
Scale told me this morning that I had gained a pound and also that I had gained some bf. Hmmmmm.... Today at work 2 different people noticed that I am slimming. Also after the ab workout and run guess what I could see today. Tummy muscles are back!!!! The cool thing is they are showing up already even though I am at a very high bf still. I might be able to pull off a abs at higher than 10%. In any case I am definately starting to lean out.
That scale is a funcking liar. Fortunately I don't head trip about it anymore....
LOL!! Yeah I can totally outrun that Schnauzer. I swear next time I am getting a lab. He is able to do the run with me now though so long as I don't push too hard. I had to drag him a couple of times but he is also getting more and more fit. I keep waiting for him to run away when I pull out his orange running vest but so far he comes tail wagging for it so I guess he likes it still.
No matter how much you tire out a dog, they'll always come back for more. They seem to love the punishment more than we do! By the end of some of our runs, my dog sits down in front of the house and refuses to move. I've had to carry her into the house before. But the next day, she's always ready to go again and seems disapointed when we walk instead.
LOL! Can we see a pic of him in his running outfit?
Great job on the runs and cutting - you've got abs, girl!
It is so nice to again see the muscles that I have been putting on the past months. And the best thing is that my belly is nearly flat now. I want to hug my trainer right now.
No matter how much you tire out a dog, they'll always come back for more. They seem to love the punishment more than we do! By the end of some of our runs, my dog sits down in front of the house and refuses to move. I've had to carry her into the house before. But the next day, she's always ready to go again and seems disapointed when we walk instead.
That is what makes them women's best friend. Always ready to do the cardio queen thing with us.
Your dog is adorable! My brother and his wife have a miniature schnauzer named Bizmark. They also have a spanish water dog that is really cute too.
I'm always amazed at the stamina of dogs. At one of the trails where I used to run, there was a dog that would often catch up with me. It was probably around 40 pounds and sort of looked like a husky, only smaller. This dog would run past me a bit, stop and wait for me to catch up, then run past me again and this would continue for miles! I had fantasies about taking it home with me.
Your abs are looking great, this cut seems to be going quite well!
I was cracking up about you running with your Schnauzer and the posts about various animal-involved activites. My husband decided it would be a great idea to hop on his bike and get our dog, Max, out for runs to work off some of his freakishly-intense (the dog-not the husband) energy. So, the first few outings, the dog was a little unsure of the whole operation, but he has since developed into quite the distance runner! I keep telling Geno(husband) that he needs to maybe scale back a bit with the frequency of this activity level, it's like we have a high-performance endurance athlete on our hands!! That damn dog will flat-out run, and run hard, for a good 3-4 miles before he settles into his trot. Geno looks a bit like a dumbass on his bike with this giant black dog strapped to it, but it's certainly something to behold.
LOL!! Yeah I can totally outrun that Schnauzer. I swear next time I am getting a lab. He is able to do the run with me now though so long as I don't push too hard. I had to drag him a couple of times but he is also getting more and more fit. I keep waiting for him to run away when I pull out his orange running vest but so far he comes tail wagging for it so I guess he likes it still.
Dogs are masochists, they'll keep coming back for more. We had a yellow lab and she could keep going and going. You would take her out somewhere and walk, and she'd go circles around people. However, more recently we had a border collie. They're very high energy dogs as well. At least you won't need to worry about them swimming out of range (our lab could sniff water an insane distances and off she would go). The collie only puddled in rivers and at the edge of lakes.
Karla, just so you know ... 18% bodyfat is not considered "very high" ... it is in the athlete category.
Description
Women
Men
Essential Fat
12–15%
2–5%
Athletes
16–20%
6–13%
Fitness
21–24%
14–17%
Acceptable
25–31%
18–25%
Obese
32%+
25%+
And 10% is VERY low for a woman ... so low that it can mess with your normal hormone production. Most figure competitors get down in the 10% range for a competition but don't stay that lean year round as it is not healthy.
Just thought you might want to know.
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Body fat measurements and the measuring tape are recognized as superior methods for measuring "weight loss". When one declares that they want to "lose weight", what they often mean is that they want to lose fat. So, now that you've had your body fat percentage measured, what does the number really mean?
First, your body fat percentage is simply the percentage of fat your body contains. If you are 150 pounds and 10% fat, it means that your body consists of 15 pounds fat and 135 pounds lean body mass (bone, muscle, organ tissue, blood and everything else).
A certain amount of fat is essential to bodily functions. Fat regulates body temperature, cushions and insulates organs and tissues and is the main form of the body's energy storage. The following table describes body fat ranges and their associated categories: *General Body Fat Percentage Categories
Classification
Women (% fat)
Men (% fat)
Essential Fat
10-12%
2-4%
Athletes
14-20%
6-13%
Fitness
21-24%
14-17%
Acceptable
25-31%
18-25%
Obese
32% plus
25% plus
*American Council on Exercise
Knowing your body fat percentage can also help you determine if your weight loss goals are realistic. Remember, weight loss doesn't always mean fat loss. For example:
Let's say you're a 130# woman with 23% body fat, and you goal is to "lose 20 pounds":
Initial body fat: 130# x 0.23 fat = 30 # body fat
Lean body mass: 130# total - 30# fat = 100# lean body mass (bones, organs and all else)
Goal: 130# - 20# = 110 pounds
As you can see, the goal of losing 20 pounds is not realistic or healthy. At 110 pounds, this woman still requires 100# of lean body mass (bones, organs, etc.), but would only be carrying 10#, or only 9% body fat. From the chart above, you can see that this is a dangerously low percentage.
A better goal might be for the woman to reduce her body fat from 23% to 18%. In this case:
130# x 0.18 = 23 # body fat
100# lean body mass + 23 # = 123# goal weight
So, for this individual to achieve a lean, but healthy 18% fat, she would need to lose only 7 pounds of fat, reducing her weight from her current 130 pounds to 123 pounds. Losing more than 7 pounds means losing lean body mass (usually metabolically-active muscle tissue), which is clearly not desirable.
So before you decide that you need to "lose weight", remember to consider that "weight" consists of both lean body mass and body fat. Try to keep your weight loss goals realistic, and remember, keep the calorie-burning muscle, and lose only the fat.
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Thanks Julie. I promise you that I do not intend to stay that low. My goal is to get as low as I can safely to get to where I have abs showing. My hope is to lose NO weight or gain weight while I drop the bf. If I can have nice abs at12% I will stop there. Then I will hang at that level for a week or two and then go to about 14% and maintain that. Then in the winter time I go again on a bulk.
How do you get a dog to run with you? I can't even get Sophie to walk well with me. She's always criss-crossing in front and behind me and nipping at my shoes!
I used to hate cottage cheese and plain yogurt until I discovered they had no flavor and great macros. Now they taste like whatever I want them to taste like. I made a creamy curry sauce for my chicken the other week from cottage cheese as well. Good stuff....
! I guess it depends on what's worth it to you... for Karla, she is happy with the substitutions and doesn't miss the real thing enough to bother eating it. For Jane, it's worth it in moderation, as a treat.
... can I eat that way all the time? No. I used to - I lived on candy, chips, fast food, restaurant meals (usually fried food with appetizers AND dessert)... and it showed. I was fat, unhappy, had high cholesterol and IBS (which magically disappeared when I started eating healthier). 
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