(It's a fork, by the way. Hence, the "forkinator" title. Get it? Aw, nevermind... )
You are such a nutbar!!
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Originally Posted by RedLefty
This guy's screename is Dieselweasel at several different weightlifting forums. Your DL story reminded me of him:
LOL!! I swear if you added a big belly of fat that hangs over his belt to this guy, that would be the boy at the gym. I can't believe people really do this. So... where is the buttcrack video now?
Unfortunately, this is probably how tons of people do a deadlift, since they don't know how a proper deadlift needs to be done.
Boy, I was LIVID when I got told by my new bf (now partner) that I was doing my DL all wrong. Not angry at him, but at the staff in my gym who never corrected me on bad form, but instead preferred yakking to clientele doing cardio.
This is what happens: people THINK they do things right, but instead of being corrected they just keep doing what they do and then after they've done it wrong for long enough are convinced their (wrong) ways are the right one. And get mad at someone who finally tells them they are doing it all wrong... SINCE NOBODY EVER SAID ANYTHING.
If anything gets me mad is people laughing behind their hands at how bad others do things in a gym and then NOT correct the wrongdoers.. assuming they are just dumbasses that can't be corrected. They've never been corrected in the first place.
This is a major pet peeve of mine.
Frankly, another one is how these same people don't want to hear they are doing things wrong. At least, not from me...instead they prefer their own wrong ways as they assume gym staff will tell if they do anything wrong.Sigh...
What's wrong with being told you're doing something wrong and being offered a better way? It doesn't make you dumb or something... I'm grateful for corrections, as long as they are perceived as meaningful.
I've done so very often. Apparently I'm a bit out of the ordinary here.
A while ago I stopped doing this, at least.. will take a good look at how that person behaves (viz. would they seem like someone accepting advice or am I already on speaking terms with them) , and only then correct them.
I'm bummed about it though, as quite a few of the offenders do look like people who don't want to be messed with.
See it as lack of perception skills . I'm seriously considering to do a course in PT and start getting paid for correcting other people's form.
Espi, I can assure you I did not laugh at the kid when he was doing the deads. I nearly did go and talk to him about the form in fact but chose to walk away instead. He was looking around to see how many people were watching him and strutting around so not very receptive looking to me. I didn't start to laugh at him until he sat down and showed off his butt crack.... Almost the entire butt crack.
That sort of speaks to the fact that he is a pretty unaware person and most probably would not have accepted any advice from me.
I've done so very often. Apparently I'm a bit out of the ordinary here.
A while ago I stopped doing this, at least.. will take a good look at how that person behaves (viz. would they seem like someone accepting advice or am I already on speaking terms with them) , and only then correct them.
I'm bummed about it though, as quite a few of the offenders do look like people who don't want to be messed with.
See it as lack of perception skills . I'm seriously considering to do a course in PT and start getting paid for correcting other people's form.
Espi, you'd be an awesome trainer! You should do it!
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Originally Posted by kfisherx
Espi, I can assure you I did not laugh at the kid when he was doing the deads. I nearly did go and talk to him about the form in fact but chose to walk away instead. He was looking around to see how many people were watching him and strutting around so not very receptive looking to me. I didn't start to laugh at him until he sat down and showed of his butt crack.... Almost the entire butt crack.
How horrifying! I don't enjoy sneak peeks of butt cracks, especially in the gym. Anywhere, really.
OMG... can I just ask HOW the guy in the video is even standing upright after doing that to his back!?!?!?!?
I correct people sometimes (it's part of my job) but I find some are more receptive than others. I think women, in particular, like to know they're doing it right and have help. If I know the person, or if they look friendly or receptive, I approach them. If it's someone who's been corrected 50 times and still never changes, I just ignore it.
Espi, I can assure you I did not laugh at the kid when he was doing the deads. I nearly did go and talk to him about the form in fact but chose to walk away instead. He was looking around to see how many people were watching him and strutting around so not very receptive looking to me. I didn't start to laugh at him until he sat down and showed off his butt crack.... Almost the entire butt crack.
That sort of speaks to the fact that he is a pretty unaware person and most probably would not have accepted any advice from me.
Yes, you did the right thing by not speaking up (you're a much better observer than I am). You have just earned 10 karma points girl!
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Originally Posted by Kirjava
Espi, you'd be an awesome trainer! You should do it!
If only I'd be more secure about myself, otherwise I'd do it in a heartbeat.. I'm having this drive to teach others that's nearly passionate.
But my own form isn't impeccable either: even just a few months ago, I observed a few glaring errors myself once my SO made a video of mine. It's relatively easy to see what others are doing wrong, but all of a sudden it gets much harder to judge your own proper form. That's why feedback from people working in a gym is so important. Instead, they don't know anything or chose to not say anything.
It's so good to see how Karla has a PT who corrects her immediately!
My PT has earned his very high hourly rate over and over again by teaching me about form and not allowing me to go too high in weights. I am one of those people who would be lifting 300lbs by now with all sorts of bad form if not for his watchful eye. I don't laugh at people like the one I saw because I know that I have enough ego to go there myself without some help. My friend and I were discussing this recently and how some of these girls are lifting really heavy and how I am not permitted to lift to my max yet for 1 rep. Form before weight...
Espi, let go the ego and go ahead and be a trainer already. If you continue to wait until you are perfect then it will never happen. The unfortunate thing about learning is that the more you learn, the more fault you see with yourself even though in reality you are improving.
It's relatively easy to see what others are doing wrong, but all of a sudden it gets much harder to judge your own proper form.
Ditto that. I've started doing short vids of myself here and there to check. What I think is right by feel doesn't always turn out to look right and it's difficult to tell until I'm staring at my own goofy self flubbing something up on tape.
Karla, if you ever decide to, you know, on a whim, kidnap your trainer, I'll rent him from you for a while.
Hey that is a good idea (kidnap my trainer and send him to you) It would be like the Ransom of Red Chief. You would be paying me double his charging price to come and get him probably around the 20th minute. Generally I hate him about 10 min after we exchange our initial greetings for the day and by 20 minutes into it I am asking myself why I ever thought this was a good idea. Then when it is over, I am happy and love it and feel good. Weird...
Today's workout consisted of a nice short 2 mile run on a 3% incline. Nice steady state cardio so I could just let my mind go numb for a little while. I am feeling fat and slugish.....
Tomorrow I see trainer and it will be leg day of some sort (either squats or deads)
Sorry it was a boring workout. No blood or anything like that. The trainer decided to do hamstring work after a little warmup. We did Deads to start and he busted me on getting sloppy in my form. So until I can fix the form I am restricted to no more than 185lbs on these. When I can do nice form at this weight I can move upwards. I didn't ever really feel like I worked out during this time of lifting. I felt like I could do these forever. This eating business sure does make a body strong (and fat and slow)
Warm up
inch worms followed by a push up
2x10
touch touches alternate toe (each toe)
2x10
seated ham string curls
1x10 (90lb)
1x10 (110lb)
1x10 (120lb) - I don't actually know if this is the right number but I think it was
At this point he said me hammies were spent and he wanted to do a bit more work on the back because he saw some weakness during the deads that he wanted to address. We went to the cable machine and did some isolation work that was so technical that I just could not get it down. So we ended up doing rows instead. These rows were done isolating the back by keeping the arms static until he was sure I was using the back muscles correctly and then we went to rows.
Standing Rows
3x15 (70lbs)
There was a lot of talking today. All useful stuff mind you but I don't feel like I got a great workout in. I want to go practice my dead form after work but he made me promise no deadlifting again until the weekend. He is still worried about my hamstring injury. I think I will go running after work sometime today and tomorrow do a good quad workout before going to the East Coast on Thursday.
Thanks girls for all the kudos. I am feeling HOT too. There isn't that much change on the outside but inside the change is totally huge.
Man this eating is really starting to affect me in a different way. I am starting to feel strong. Mega strong and mega energy. I decided earlier this week that I was going to keep the bulk going for another month at least. It will mean that I won't make 10% by July but the challenge is less important than my real goals. It took me all this time to reach my metabolism and be able to actually put on meaningful weight. I don't want to stop this now. My trainer said that I really should commit to 6 months of bulk for the first one. I don't know if I can do that but I can probably do 5. I should still look pretty darned good by July.
So I was sort of feeling like I didn't get enough of a workout in earlier today so I went again to the gym tonight. I just wanted to throw iron around and so that is what I did. I focused on Back/lats and abs to finish off what I started this afternoon. My trainer talked to me about the wide grip lat pull downs today and I discovered that I wasn't doing them correctly. The good news is that I was making them harder instead of easier so I managed some much nicer numbers tonight than previous.
Wide grip lat pull down
1x15 (40)
1x8 (80)
1x8 (90)
DB 1 arm row (I was a monster with these)
1x10 (45)
1x8 (50)
1x8 (55)
Pull ups with 40 lb assist
2x7
1x4
V-ups
1x15
2x10
Reverse Crunch
3x10
HITT 20 min (1 min intervals) 3.5% incline
3.0 and 7.0 (1 at 7.5)
I pegged my HR at 167
It all felt crazy good. I want to go throw more iron around but my shoulder blades and Hammies are a tiny bit tender so I'll go practice guitar and take a nice hottub under the stars instead!
Your bulk should be based on your goals. If you want to bulk until you reach x lbs, but you need to stop in 5 months because you're going on safari, then stop in 5 months.
But, don't go longer than 6 months, because that's how long your first bulk should be!
Thanks for the advice Roland. The thing is I do not have specific enough goals 'cause I really don't get it yet. I want to get as big as I possibly can this time around. I don't feel like I made very good progress at first because I came from being an undereater to this and it took a long time to stop loosing weight once I started to lift. So I sort of have to set my first bulk on a time goal. Once I understand what I am capable of doing I will set more specific bulking periods.
Thanks girls for all the kudos. I am feeling HOT too. There isn't that much change on the outside but inside the change is totally huge.
Man this eating is really starting to affect me in a different way. I am starting to feel strong. Mega strong and mega energy. I decided earlier this week that I was going to keep the bulk going for another month at least. It will mean that I won't make 10% by July but the challenge is less important than my real goals. It took me all this time to reach my metabolism and be able to actually put on meaningful weight. I don't want to stop this now. My trainer said that I really should commit to 6 months of bulk for the first one. I don't know if I can do that but I can probably do 5. I should still look pretty darned good by July.
So I was sort of feeling like I didn't get enough of a workout in earlier today so I went again to the gym tonight. I just wanted to throw iron around and so that is what I did. I focused on Back/lats and abs to finish off what I started this afternoon. My trainer talked to me about the wide grip lat pull downs today and I discovered that I wasn't doing them correctly. The good news is that I was making them harder instead of easier so I managed some much nicer numbers tonight than previous.
Wide grip lat pull down
1x15 (40)
1x8 (80)
1x8 (90)
DB 1 arm row (I was a monster with these)
1x10 (45)
1x8 (50)
1x8 (55)
Pull ups with 40 lb assist
2x7
1x4
V-ups
1x15
2x10
Reverse Crunch
3x10
HITT 20 min (1 min intervals) 3.5% incline
3.0 and 7.0 (1 at 7.5)
I pegged my HR at 167
It all felt crazy good. I want to go throw more iron around but my shoulder blades and Hammies are a tiny bit tender so I'll go practice guitar and take a nice hottub under the stars instead!
You are intense, girlfriend! Look at you, throwing that iron around "just 'cuz." And tossing in some HITT just for the hell of it....
I think all that food is going to a very good place! You are becoming a superhero!
Nice work on the rows!!!
I'm also glad to hear you are changing your goals to fit you. That sounds great. Bulk, bulk it up.
Stop saying hot tub!! (just some pure, unadulterated jealousy over here, that's fine.)
Your pull-downs and rows are huge! You're scaring the big boys.
Brent
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Originally Posted by dillytl
Nice work there, superwoman!!!!
LOL!!! Am I intimidating everyone with my bigness yet?
Tonight was KILL QUAD night
Warm up
toe touches 1x20 each leg
DB push press
1x15 (15) e
1x10 (20)e
1x5 (30)e - this so kicked ass
Squats
1x15 (95lb)
2x10 (135lb)
1x3 (135lb)
I did the last set because I felt as if I did not go as low as I could for some of these. I am starting to get pretty comfy with this weight. When I was doing these one of the gym's trainers told me that I looked good.
It seems you are finally understanding/experiencing why so many men are in love with bulking: it makes them feel big & strrrrong! Most women don't mind looking smalll and weak, hence why they have a hard time bulking .. well at least bulking for muscle. A lot of women bulk 'unintentionally' and gain more fat than muscle.
Don'tcha love the words 'unintentional' bulk
We'll be watching you and smash PR after PR once you have hit the correct form. You can be very grateful for learning things right early on!
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. I'm seriously considering to do a course in PT and start getting paid for correcting other people's form.
When I can do nice form at this weight I can move upwards. I didn't ever really feel like I worked out during this time of lifting. I felt like I could do these forever. This eating business sure does make a body strong (and fat and slow) 
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