Comment/Discussion on Waterbury's Sexy Female Training - JP Fitness Forums

theleip · 01-18-2007, 06:57 PM

So I have read SFT and I half agree with it or well more so I just have some comments/questions about the program.

As far as body sculpting and movement patterns that help with elongating muscles, creating flexibility and proper core movement to enhance posture I agree. In fact I agree with everything in the program that is except for the fact that it doesn't state that this may not be a program for those significantly overweight or those needing more aggressive means to work against pre-proposed genetics. In general this program seems it would work best or only work for those who are pretty close to having those "sexy female bodies" already. You know the girls, they come into the gym and hire you on and have at most 5-7 pounds of fat to lose and where the phase "i need to tone up" truly came from. This is where I see that program shine. But for a 5'3 180 35 year old woman who is very pear shaped, I feel a serious plateau would be hit on this style of program.

So my big question is, would it be right to think that you would hit an aggressive compound plan mixed with diet to get to a certain point of body fat loss and then kick in with what I see as a sculpting plan towards the end?

Also someone who is really genetically off set for say that perky bum, wouldn't it be wise to hit hard with some bulking involving heavy squats and deadlifts and then during cut switch to a plan like this after you have set some "ground work" so to speak?

I am not challenging the program as much as questioning when to put the program into use and I feel using this program only would not be aggressive enough or advancing enough for those not already close to the end of their goals. I just am seeing a lot of women start up on the SFT when I feel they aren't at the stage yet to benefit from it yet.

I look forward to a response from Chad or any others on this topic.

ParanoidAndroid · 01-18-2007, 08:11 PM

check out this thread
Chad answers some questions.

theleip · 01-18-2007, 08:18 PM

Thanks alot this right here

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3. My job is to take intermediate-advanced people to the next level. I don't work with overly fat females who've never trained before. For them (the beginners), that article is irrelevant.

Answered my questions. It was what I assumed, it just wasn't made clear in that article. A reason I wanted to throw it out there is I see a lot of people shelling out that article to overly fat or beginner women and I don't think they realize that it just wouldn't work in those cases. So now I feel confident having that quote to say so. Appreciate your reply.

I had no problem with the article though in that whole "women are weak sense". Because it is true, this is what most women want and it was stated as such it wasn't for a female bodybuilder trying to bulk up. I haven't worked with anyone yet online or off that hasn't wanted this style of body.

ParanoidAndroid · 01-18-2007, 08:19 PM

no problem

Welcome to the forums!

Cynic · 01-18-2007, 09:48 PM

Welcome theleip, to my second home on the internet.

theleip · 01-18-2007, 10:01 PM

Thanks cynic! I have been reading for sometime now, just figured I might as well post. The minds here, it is exciting to say the least.

jvernacchio · 01-19-2007, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theleip

Thanks alot this right here

Answered my questions. It was what I assumed, it just wasn't made clear in that article. A reason I wanted to throw it out there is I see a lot of people shelling out that article to overly fat or beginner women and I don't think they realize that it just wouldn't work in those cases. So now I feel confident having that quote to say so. Appreciate your reply.

I had no problem with the article though in that whole "women are weak sense". Because it is true, this is what most women want and it was stated as such it wasn't for a female bodybuilder trying to bulk up. I haven't worked with anyone yet online or off that hasn't wanted this style of body.

I would say Chads TBT (Total Body Training) is a superior program for begginners and intermediate lifters. Especially for women that want an aggressive full body program 3 times a week. Add in some HIIT for cardio and there is definitly a formula for body change.

rwmct · 01-19-2007, 05:31 PM

The biggest surprise i had is the bit about most women telling him they want to look like Brittany Spears, whether young or old version. Most women I know want a more slender, less fleshy look. A little classier, less like a stripper. Like a dancer (ballet, not pole), as was said in another post. Maybe this is generational, I dont know