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Old 12-12-2005, 10:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
Axis
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Disclaimer - I don't think thermogenic supplements are necessary with proper diet and training, and they could be dangerous. Use at your own risk.

That being said, if you're going to use them, you might as well do it right.

Vasopro (ephedrine-HCL) works best when stacked with caffeine. You can use Lipo6, if you want, as your caffeine source, but I would go with generic NoDoz because it is much cheaper and probably just as effective.

Past research has shown the optimal ratio to be 20 mg ephedrine/200 mg caffeine. Start out with that dose once per day. You can gradually increase to 3 doses per day. I wouldn't recommend more than that. Also, don't take any within 6 hours of your bedtime if you want good sleep.

The way this stuff works, the longer you use it, the less noticeable the effect will be, and when you stop using it, you will be irritable, groggy, and want to eat everything in sight for a while.
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