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Old 07-01-2009, 07:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
Etana
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Originally Posted by Leigh P. View Post
well again we don't know what level of deficit it is to begin with. ... snip ... Again, the constant focus on assuming your measurements are right in the first place is the downfall in this discussion in my opinion. ...

.... That being said, at this time with everything charting positive and the fact that you are losing inches and not much scale weight, that again points to the fact that your deficit may not be as large as you think it is.
The reason this concept (that I am not in as much as a deficit as I think) bothers me so much, is that if I calculated that I have had a 44,541 cal deficit in 8 weeks... well say I am 50% off, it would still be a 22,250cal deficit, which would be a 6.35 lb weight loss, when I'm fluctuating on the scale showing 1 lb -3.5 lbs loss depending on the day. So Leigh, do you think I am 75% off my calculations?

One day of 2000 cal, and the scale is up 4 pounds (not fat, I know, but still the upward fluctuation is very immediate and large)

Now, since I am weighing all food (not counting points or eyeballing or measuring), AND since I am using the GoWear Fit, and since 75%+ of my food is 1-ingredient foods, my guess is that I am 10%-15% off. But let's say I am 25% off... That would be a deficit of 33,405 cal deficit in 8 weeks or 9.54 lbs, or a pound a week.

Time will tell, because the next 8 weeks, I won't be gaining muscle (due to continued deficit, I hope to maintain muscle, but not gain muscle), and the water retention should be stabilized. So I am assuming that if I continue the 800cal/day deficit, even subtracting 20% for daily error, I should lose a pound a week. So time will tell...

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The rate of loss is not the important factor as much as charting overtime. Different bodies and deficit levels function different ways.
Hopefully, this is the take home point.. the trend over time.

The reason I say I am curious: I do not think the slow losers here are meauring badly, while the fast losers who lose a steady 1-2 lbs per week are measuring correctly. I think there is more to the story than that. Because we have all seen Leigh's video, listened to her podcasts until they're imprinted in our brain, fed up with dieting already, and almost bringing our scales to restaurants with us.

I do believe in the ultimate simplicity of eat less, & move more. And again I am in the optimistic stance that the next 8 weeks I will see my one pound per week over time trend. But just as I am optimistic, I am also scared and pessimistic based on the past.

OPT for Fatloss I ends July 26.
1 refeed week
OPT for Fatloss II ends October 25
My planned deficit should show a 15-21 lb weight loss in the next 15 weeks' deficit, and a beautiful line graph, and even more beautiful physique!

NOTE: after I lowered my calories 3 weeks ago to 1100-1200 (from 1350), I saw a scale drop the first week, and then a .4 lb gain each of the next 2 weeks. Now in the 4th week at 1100-1200 cal, I feel my energy level dropping from the low deficit, so I can only assume, that unless I pull my NEAT back up, there is no point to dropping the calories to this level.

... And the question for this thread still is, how can one show inches lost without showing pounds lost... Leigh, your answer seems to be "because your measurements (food in, energy out) are miscalculated. I could understand that if there were no inches lost, but not when 3-5" are lost in one area. I don't understand the science of it.
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