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WillACarpenter · 06-18-2009, 06:50 AM

For now nothing is set in stone, and I think that's the way everybody should be to some degree, but especially when they first start getting all of this overload of information.

Right now if I was going to follow the advice of one person on nutrition, one program, it would be http://precisionnutrition.com/ by Dr. John Berardi.

I like what he says, I think he makes sense, I think he really care and likes to back up what he says both with real world experience AND lab results from studies etc.

What am I doing as far as nutrition goes? If anybody's (I'm sure some of you have) read the Dave Tate Project http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a...tate_project_i I am certainly not nearly as bad as Dave was... and I'm not nearly as cynical about the importance of nutrition. I think Dave is a great example for that, look at what he accomplished by just doing the right things...But I take that as a real good guideline for myself. Eat a lot, eat a lot of the right things.

I think EVERYBODY worries too much about their diet. I do from time to time...but I'm just getting into this, I need to worry sometimes.

I have been listening to a lot of old The Fitcast episodes and I especially like any time JB is on there because he just always says something that makes me a better person. Here's a couple of short articles that I added to my eating habits: http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...y/jb_top10.htm http://www.tomvenuto.com/articles/nu..._debates.shtml and when looking for those before I also found this: http://john-berardi.blogspot.com/200...nutrition.html

Note: I do not even OWN precision nutrition yet, because I'm trying to avoid over thinking my diet just yet.

But I follow those rules. I wake up and take half of my supplement pills with some water, if I'm not hungry I might grab half of a Muscle Milk Light RTD (found them for $.70 at a local store and juts cleaned them OUT)

Then I'll shower and get ready for the day, go to my SO's house and have dinner....that's right Dinner. What do YOU want to eat at 6pm? Omelet? No. You want Dinner. So that's what I eat as my first meal.

We've been making food at home, so it's become a lot easier to control my intake. Chicken breast, broccoli, skim milk. I'm trying to avoid carbohydrates because I would naturally slide to eating just a TON of them. Following JB's rule if I have carbs I try to stuff them into my life within 3 hours of my workout.

I will generally serve myself a portion of food that is sightly smaller than what I would have eaten before...but I will eat about half and then heat the rest up a few hours later and have that before work.

At work I keep some of my own trail mix in my backpack. I have all unsalted dry roasted nuts, dried fruits, soy nuts and sunflower seeds. I bag it up 1/3 cup in a bag and I don't eat one every night, but they're on hand if I need it.

At work sometimes throughout the night I will have a small snack or two and a largish lunch meal.

My lunch meal generally consists of chicken breast and mixed steamed veggies, or chicken breast over spring mix salad with lots of veggies tossed in with a light balsamic dressing. Or sometimes I'll use the "prime rib" meat and throw a few teaspoons of bleu cheese crumbles on the salad and make it a "Black and Bleu". Also I sometimes cook myself some Tilapia with the steamed veggies, maybe some steamed green beans.

My snacks include cottage cheese, low fat vanilla yogurt, fresh strawberries, fresh cantaloupe, applesauce, (at work only) 2% milk. Maybe an egg or two (over easy) on a slice of whole wheat toast (without butter)

At home I will generally make some type of wrap. I use FlatOut multigrain and flax wraps, I may have some chicken, or fat free refried beans to put in it, but most often I use some TVP that I've made with chicken broth and some sort of chili/taco seasoning. Maybe some fresh veggies or a piece of fruit if I haven't had much fruit that day. Might snack on my trail mix.

I try to make sure I'm getting protein throughout my day. I try to make sure my veggies are throughout my day. I try to make sure I'm eating different types of fats all day.

I like a lot of other foods, and I try to fit them in as often as I can. Saturdays I workout in the morning, have my post workout shake, get cleaned up then we drive to the city for my favorite Indian food place, Thali of India. It's a buffet. I simply CANNOT eat as much as I used to be able to, and as much as I love the breads and rice etc...I'm really there for the Palak Paneer and Chana Masala and (I think it's callled...) Shadi Paneer (basically anything with that awesome skim milk cheese, paneer, is right up my alley) and the Chicken Mhakni is amazing as well.

And guess what? It's about 90 minutes after my workout, when JB recommends I get my carbs in if I'm going to.

I am not at a point in my routine where I am willing to flat out deny myself anything. I've been down that road. If I want an Oreo I will damn well have one...but a) I don't really crave the junk. Especially since I can eat really high quality delicious food all day long. and b) I am much better able to control myself and I can have one serving of oreos, or one oreo or whatever.

I also try to eat low fat cheeses, or really sharp cheeses that have all the fat but satisfy faster.

What's my daily caloric intake? Probably high for somebody that's "supposed" to be on a diet. But WAY less than when I was eating cheese burgers and fries all day, and drinking probably 32oz of soda a day. And eating crap right before bed.

Plus I train hard. I don't always do recovery workouts etc. but when I do even THOSE are hard. Dave Tate got the way he was (a F***ing BAD ASS even though he lived at McDonalds) by training BIG TIME.

I could not tell you my carb to protein to rat ratios throughout the day. But I can tell you that eating more often, in smaller amounts, with a bigger focus on vegetables and lean meats really helps.

Hummus. I've recently become a BIG fan of hummus. But a lot of the stuff I can find isn't the best for you, I've found a couple better ones, but I should just make it myself...Gourmet Nutrition has a recipe for it. (I really just need to bite that bullet...maybe next week)

If you'd like to see more detailed nutrition information then just stay tuned because as this ride goes along I'll get there, but for now eating a lot better is good enough.

The biggest reason I say it's good enough...is because I will do it. A lot of people answer the question "what's the best training program/diet?" with "the one you're not on". For somebody in my position that's a bunch of BS. The answer to that question should be "the one you'll do." I agree that steady state cardio isn't the best thing, and that I don't *need* to do it. But if I loved running and would run every damn day, then that's what I should be doing.

That Jared guy lost all of his weight by walking all over the place and eating at freaking Subway! Is that the best diet and exercise plan on earth!? NO! But it DID work, for him, because it's something that he could COMMIT to. He did it day in and day out and lost his weight. Some crazy guy ate that one REALLY GIANT burrito at Chipotle's each day. Basically he looked at the nutritional info and was like "wow this has just about everything I need for an ENTIRE DAY...what if this was all I ate everyday!? I could be like that Jared guy! I'll make millions!" (which I don't think he did) but HE STAYED WITH IT. Sure he doesn't look as good as somebody that used a "better" system...but he lost the weight because he just committed himself.

I am VERY interested in progressing with my nutrition, but for right now I'm keeping it simple. Trying to eat somewhat "clean" with some good variety, with a slight bit of nutrient timing thrown in there for good measure.

If you have books I should read, send me a link. Feel free to tell me what you like, and why.

And *please* point me towards some good warmup/stretching/mobility stuff. I really need to buy Inside Out and Magnificent Mobility...but I need to pay for my car too.

I just got my foam roller in the mail and I'm excited to start some SMR ASAP. (wooo! love the jumbles of letters in this fitness world)

Today is our first day on the new routine. Day 1 - Back and Triceps. I'll talk more about it afterward. I'll also be trying out Cytofuse today as well. Check back for at least a taste review.

P.S. Sorry if this is all misspelled and looks like crap, the forum is messing up on me, and FireFox isn't doing the spell check as I type right now either..

06-18-2009, 06:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
WillACarpenter Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canandaigua, NY Posts: 31	For now nothing is set in stone, and I think that's the way everybody should be to some degree, but especially when they first start getting all of this overload of information. Right now if I was going to follow the advice of one person on nutrition, one program, it would be http://precisionnutrition.com/ by Dr. John Berardi. I like what he says, I think he makes sense, I think he really care and likes to back up what he says both with real world experience AND lab results from studies etc. What am I doing as far as nutrition goes? If anybody's (I'm sure some of you have) read the Dave Tate Project http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a...tate_project_i I am certainly not nearly as bad as Dave was... and I'm not nearly as cynical about the importance of nutrition. I think Dave is a great example for that, look at what he accomplished by just doing the right things...But I take that as a real good guideline for myself. Eat a lot, eat a lot of the right things. I think EVERYBODY worries too much about their diet. I do from time to time...but I'm just getting into this, I need to worry sometimes. I have been listening to a lot of old The Fitcast episodes and I especially like any time JB is on there because he just always says something that makes me a better person. Here's a couple of short articles that I added to my eating habits: http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...y/jb_top10.htm http://www.tomvenuto.com/articles/nu..._debates.shtml and when looking for those before I also found this: http://john-berardi.blogspot.com/200...nutrition.html Note: I do not even OWN precision nutrition yet, because I'm trying to avoid over thinking my diet just yet. But I follow those rules. I wake up and take half of my supplement pills with some water, if I'm not hungry I might grab half of a Muscle Milk Light RTD (found them for $.70 at a local store and juts cleaned them OUT) Then I'll shower and get ready for the day, go to my SO's house and have dinner....that's right Dinner. What do YOU want to eat at 6pm? Omelet? No. You want Dinner. So that's what I eat as my first meal. We've been making food at home, so it's become a lot easier to control my intake. Chicken breast, broccoli, skim milk. I'm trying to avoid carbohydrates because I would naturally slide to eating just a TON of them. Following JB's rule if I have carbs I try to stuff them into my life within 3 hours of my workout. I will generally serve myself a portion of food that is sightly smaller than what I would have eaten before...but I will eat about half and then heat the rest up a few hours later and have that before work. At work I keep some of my own trail mix in my backpack. I have all unsalted dry roasted nuts, dried fruits, soy nuts and sunflower seeds. I bag it up 1/3 cup in a bag and I don't eat one every night, but they're on hand if I need it. At work sometimes throughout the night I will have a small snack or two and a largish lunch meal. My lunch meal generally consists of chicken breast and mixed steamed veggies, or chicken breast over spring mix salad with lots of veggies tossed in with a light balsamic dressing. Or sometimes I'll use the "prime rib" meat and throw a few teaspoons of bleu cheese crumbles on the salad and make it a "Black and Bleu". Also I sometimes cook myself some Tilapia with the steamed veggies, maybe some steamed green beans. My snacks include cottage cheese, low fat vanilla yogurt, fresh strawberries, fresh cantaloupe, applesauce, (at work only) 2% milk. Maybe an egg or two (over easy) on a slice of whole wheat toast (without butter) At home I will generally make some type of wrap. I use FlatOut multigrain and flax wraps, I may have some chicken, or fat free refried beans to put in it, but most often I use some TVP that I've made with chicken broth and some sort of chili/taco seasoning. Maybe some fresh veggies or a piece of fruit if I haven't had much fruit that day. Might snack on my trail mix. I try to make sure I'm getting protein throughout my day. I try to make sure my veggies are throughout my day. I try to make sure I'm eating different types of fats all day. I like a lot of other foods, and I try to fit them in as often as I can. Saturdays I workout in the morning, have my post workout shake, get cleaned up then we drive to the city for my favorite Indian food place, Thali of India. It's a buffet. I simply CANNOT eat as much as I used to be able to, and as much as I love the breads and rice etc...I'm really there for the Palak Paneer and Chana Masala and (I think it's callled...) Shadi Paneer (basically anything with that awesome skim milk cheese, paneer, is right up my alley) and the Chicken Mhakni is amazing as well. And guess what? It's about 90 minutes after my workout, when JB recommends I get my carbs in if I'm going to. I am not at a point in my routine where I am willing to flat out deny myself anything. I've been down that road. If I want an Oreo I will damn well have one...but a) I don't really crave the junk. Especially since I can eat really high quality delicious food all day long. and b) I am much better able to control myself and I can have one serving of oreos, or one oreo or whatever. I also try to eat low fat cheeses, or really sharp cheeses that have all the fat but satisfy faster. What's my daily caloric intake? Probably high for somebody that's "supposed" to be on a diet. But WAY less than when I was eating cheese burgers and fries all day, and drinking probably 32oz of soda a day. And eating crap right before bed. Plus I train hard. I don't always do recovery workouts etc. but when I do even THOSE are hard. Dave Tate got the way he was (a F**ing BAD ASS even though he lived at McDonalds) by training BIG TIME. I could not tell you my carb to protein to rat ratios throughout the day. But I can tell you that eating more often, in smaller amounts, with a bigger focus on vegetables and lean meats really helps. Hummus. I've recently become a BIG fan of hummus. But a lot of the stuff I can find isn't the best for you, I've found a couple better ones, but I should just make it myself...Gourmet Nutrition has a recipe for it. (I really just need to bite that bullet...maybe next week) If you'd like to see more detailed nutrition information then just stay tuned because as this ride goes along I'll get there, but for now eating a lot better is good enough. The biggest reason I say it's good enough...is because I will do it. A lot of people answer the question "what's the best training program/diet?" with "the one you're not on". For somebody in my position that's a bunch of BS. The answer to that question should be "the one you'll do." I agree that steady state cardio isn't the best thing, and that I don't need* to do it. But if I loved running and would run every damn day, then that's what I should be doing. That Jared guy lost all of his weight by walking all over the place and eating at freaking Subway! Is that the best diet and exercise plan on earth!? NO! But it DID work, for him, because it's something that he could COMMIT to. He did it day in and day out and lost his weight. Some crazy guy ate that one REALLY GIANT burrito at Chipotle's each day. Basically he looked at the nutritional info and was like "wow this has just about everything I need for an ENTIRE DAY...what if this was all I ate everyday!? I could be like that Jared guy! I'll make millions!" (which I don't think he did) but HE STAYED WITH IT. Sure he doesn't look as good as somebody that used a "better" system...but he lost the weight because he just committed himself. I am VERY interested in progressing with my nutrition, but for right now I'm keeping it simple. Trying to eat somewhat "clean" with some good variety, with a slight bit of nutrient timing thrown in there for good measure. If you have books I should read, send me a link. Feel free to tell me what you like, and why. And please point me towards some good warmup/stretching/mobility stuff. I really need to buy Inside Out and Magnificent Mobility...but I need to pay for my car too. I just got my foam roller in the mail and I'm excited to start some SMR ASAP. (wooo! love the jumbles of letters in this fitness world) Today is our first day on the new routine. Day 1 - Back and Triceps. I'll talk more about it afterward. I'll also be trying out Cytofuse today as well. Check back for at least a taste review. P.S. Sorry if this is all misspelled and looks like crap, the forum is messing up on me, and FireFox isn't doing the spell check as I type right now either.. __________________ Will A. Carpenter - The "A" Stands for Awesome! Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth (Mike Tyson)