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Old 06-16-2009, 08:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
Stogey
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Originally Posted by NACHO View Post
I know some of you think I am a Troll which is understandable. I'm not, just a fat noob trying to maximize his results. So ...

I got Starting Strength and Practical Programming and jumped straight to the novice section of Practical Programming.

To my amazement unless I am misunderstanding it recommends sets of 5 reps.

How could it be so opposite of NROL?

I understand that either will bring me gains but one must be better than the other or not? Is there some other reasonable way to explain this?
My guess is, as I have not read those books thoroughly enough to comment on content, that those books are strength oriented books/programs. That is just based off of title's, Amazon book descriptions and other experiences with similar products.

NROL has a strength portion as well. The difference is that NROL suggests for newer lifters to start with a fat burning program. This is based on a safe assumption that the majority at this point will be carrying extra fat. It is widely accepted by almost every camp out there that lower rep is better for strength purposes, mid rep is for hypertrophy and high rep is for endurance/fat burn. This does not mean that if I start out with a strength program, being overweight myself, that I will not burn fat on that strength program. As a newbie, I will most likely get stronger and burn some fat.

I was a strength/powerlifter back in high school and really haven't lifted in over a decade. I never lifted anything beyond 8 reps. When I started going to a gym a few months back I was in miserable shape. I literally went through warm-ups and some core drills with a personal trainer. We went over to start on some machines (not a great start for my trainer but that is another subject) and I start with an incline press. After the second set, fifteen minutes into the workout, I hit the wall and spent the next five minutes hugging a trash can.

I had a few more sessions with the trainer and worked up to almost an hour before I hit my 'wall'. We would have to take mercy breaks so I wouldn't pass out or hurl. Due to some personal financial issues, I cannot afford a trainer on a normal basis. I was directionless at that point and knew I wanted off of the dreaded machines and to return to what I was familiar with. I purchased a few books and NROL was the one most inline with my own personal philosophy.

Philosophy, it’s a great word. That is what this is all about. There are many different ways to skin a cat (what a graphic saying that is). I could have picked from a number of different programs but I chose this one. Why? Because this was the most likely program, for me personally, that I would stick with and apply over an extended period of time. I implore you find that special program for yourself and leave all of these nice folks alone. I suspect your motives have a foul intent and you are just bucking this particular philosophy for self vindication. You remind me of a guy on a local forum who goes into the ‘off-topic’ and pokes at all the Christian philosophies because he is an atheist. The posts are never productive and are never going to go anywhere. The posts only purposes are to create strife with the people who are different from himself.

P.S. You are not a troll that is a common mistake. If your intent is what I have theorized then you are an internet gadfly.
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