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Old 05-27-2009, 10:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
Mon
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^^^upright rows are not very good either. I heard upright rows are not very good for the shoulders. I think Mike Robertson and Eric Cressey have mentioned that as well as a "not to do" exercise.

read face pulls, push ups, and shrugs on t-nation. That will tell you all about the shoulders and what to do. If you want to shrug, do overhead shrugs.

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a..._and_shrugs&cr=

hope this helps
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