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Originally Posted by niclyf
You're right Fisher .. I'm definitely a cardio junkie  Don't get me wrong .. I still LOVE lifting, but cardio has always been my "crutch" to keep my weight in check. I was incredibly overweight until I was 16 or 17 years old (I'm 33 now) .. so there's that "heavy girl" in my head that adapted to heavy cardio to make sure I never went back there again. Granted, based on "scale weight", I'm not technically overweight .. but I'm definitely "skinny fat" .. and I can't stand the amount of fat/flab I'm sporting now. I don't ever want to be double digits again in terms of weight .. It's taken me 10 years to realize how shitty I looked and how miserable my life was trying to sustain that. I DO however want to feel better about my appearance, which means leaning out and tightening up everything, while still having some softness .. I don't aspire to look like a bodybuilder, and quite frankly, I can't fathom the though of being so rigid again that I can't have the occasional slice of cake or piece of candy. But I can't figure out how to eat for training purposes that isn't mundane, tasteless and as I ate previously, incredibly boring .. I lived on salads, and raw veggies 
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Oh I think I know you....

Seriously we could be sisters. I am a couple of years ahead of you is all. That fat girl thing still is inside my head and I still have fear but it gets better each day.
You have a long, tough journey ahead but it isn't impossible. I am currently training to be a bber actually because I embrace the control freak in me and will use it for good instead of evil. I certainly can understand your resistance to that sort of lifestyle though. It is (sort of ) a pain in the ass.
I also TOTALLY get what you mean RE body image. When I had finished destroying myself I was 130lbs and 31% bf. (I am 5'5" btw) Now I am 130lbs and about 17% bf. It took me 2 years to hit this place and over the next years, I want to be 124.9lbs and 10% (for on the stage only mind you).
Okay so where in the heck is this whole concept of boring foods coming from. I think I said to eat 1650 kcals a day and with macros of about 40, 30, 30. That would mean steak, fish, hamburgers, milk, bread, whatever... all in quanities that fit within those guidelines. I will give you a sample from my day today since I am doing 1700 cals a day (about).....
* Homade pizza: 1 tomato, sauce, whole wheat pita bread toasted, moz cheese, turkey burger, chicken sausage (438 cals)
* Whole rolled Oats and milk
* Steak (rib-eye) 12 oz and vegetables mixed
* protein pancakes cinamon and butter
My macros are very high in Protein so you wouldn't copy this exactly but do you notice how I am not AVOIDING foods per say? Just pick foods that satisfy you in the proper quanties and eat for goodness sake. Use this new role with food as a way to let go of your creative juices. Make up recipes and have fun with it. I used to HATE food and now I have only a mild disinterest in it.

I realize it is my friend and not the thing out to make me fat. Changing your relationship with food. Letting go of your fears and jumping in both feet all have empowered me to be strong and control (that's what we both really ultimately want anyway

) my future wrt my body.
And btw: I second everything Lisa says. She is smart cookie... Did someone say, "cookie?"
PPS: If you can afford it, buy the book "New Rules of Lifting for Women" (Not the Man one) because it has 1. Really good reasoning of why you need to eat like everyone is saying 2. It will tell you to "step away from the treadmill" 3. It has a whole section dedicated to foods and food prep that is actually a good launching point. 4. If you are not comfortable with lifting it gives good stater basics on the fundamental lifts.
I agree the workouts are not the greatest but fine if you have no clue what to do for upper/lower, etc.