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Old 05-21-2009, 04:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Alan Aragon View Post
It's just as easy to gain fat on a fat-protein diet as it is to gain fat on a more moderate macro breakdown. But, why should Taubes mention moderate breakdowns when it's a lot easier to compare unrealistic extremes? Because sensationalism sells books.
Isn't it true that a lot of people on ketogenic diets eat at a deficit even without controlling calories just because they feel fuller? That's my experience, + I've heard other people say the same. Of course, if you were to eat at the same surplus with a ketogenic and a "regular" diet, you'd end up gaining the same amount of weight, but I think it would be harder to get to that surplus with a ketogenic than a regular diet. And isn't that kind of important when it comes to getting regular people to lose weight? If I want to cut, I cut calories, it's simple. If I'm a bit hungry, I don't eat (unless I'm supposed to). but not everyone works like that and if you can find a diet that will reduce someones appetite so that they will naturally eat less calories, then I think that's great.
Of course, ketogenic diets have a problem, people love their carbs and it's hard to adhere to, but if you can eat like that comfortably I bet you'll eat less calories without thinking about the cals, and that's a good thing if you want to drop weight. Disagree?

Hale, getting 4500 cals with just fruits and veggies would be hard, but with eating a lot of bread, pasta, rice and lean meats I bet I could do it easier than I could with a ketogenic diet, now of course, I can't know that until I've tried.
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