Pete, what kind of stretching in particular are you referring too.
When I was training in Japan we did some pretty stupid stretching as a part of warm-ups and I paid for it with the first of a few knee injuries.
I certainly don't do any ballistic stretching, nor would I recommend anyone do it as part of a warm-up. Some static stretching is fine in my opinion, but I'd do dynamic work first.
My grappling club always did dynamic warmups and drills before static stretching, which is a good route to go in my opinion.
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