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Old 12-11-2008, 12:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I will resist the urge to suggest that you learn it on you own.....

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Originally Posted by Adam Welch View Post
I don't want to break bones, I just want to stun the heck out of them, without giving them any injury that won't heal within 1 week.

I also want it to be realistic as a self defense towards all types of people, big or small.
I think that what you seek can be found in almost any martial art (though more so in others) in that it is more how you CHOOSE to use your ability.

"Stunning" people is not really a martial art technique, you are likely to have to choose between a joint lock or a strike. Either can be "violent" or less violent.

FOr example, aikido is "non violent" and if you watch it you will see a sensei tossing students around like rag dolls and no one getting hurt. Some people have in fact called it silly because it is not realistic, because students roll with the joint locks (it looks like the teacher touches them and the flip themselves to ground). The reality is if they do not do that, they will end up with, at best, torn ligaments, or at worst, a joint broken backwards.

So using this "nonviolent" MA, you could ease someone to the ground or you could seriously hurt someone depending on your skill level.

Strikes are similar. A punch is a punch. Depends whether you do it to the throat, the temple, the ribs, or the solar plexus. A kick downward into a knee is not that different from a kick to a pressure point above the knee to the side. The first could cripple you the second will make you limp for a week.

I think with your very limited MA experience, you have not developed enough skill to internalize this. Your question also reflects this. You suggest that MMA is no good because it does not allow eye gouging; but yet you do not want to injure your supposed opponent. If someone is gouging your eyes, you are in very real danger. My particular MA uses both "soft" and "hard" and is philosophically defense oriented. I was recently being shown some knife defense techniques by a 8th dan sensei. He said that if you being attacked by someone with a knife you need to try and kill the person, or you will end up dead.

If someone is gouging your eyes, as you suggest, you need to respond with a high level of violence. If you are in that kind of situation it is not "comic book" kung fu. Some WILL be injured, and seriously injured. You want to be sure that someone is NOT you.

I would suggest to get to a decent skill level you would need to study and train for at least three years. Then you might find that if these imaginary "bar fights" actually occur in real life, you will do what most skilled and experienced fighters do. That is: apologize, and walk away.
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