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Originally posted by Ikan Twin:
this is an interesting thread to read if you have the time:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f...a701988e247c80

i use oats 1/2 hour after workout with ICE. i use hi gi (vendetta) during & immmediately after.

You do the oats with the vendetta(not sure what that is)?