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Adam Campbell · 08-21-2004, 08:15 AM

Vegetables have very few carbs. Most can go into ketosis while eating several servings a day. Of course, this doesn't include potatoes, but check out the ones I recommended.

However, the diet I recommended to JP isn't a very-low carb diet, it's a low-carb diet. If it were a very-low carb diet, I would have cut out the fruit and grains (1-2 servings at most was the rec) as well as the carbs pre and post workout. I would have still said to eat as many of the recommended vegetables--you can eat five servings of most and three servings of nuts/seeds and still stay under 50g of carbs a day, which for most would make it a ketogenic diet.

The diet I gave JP was more or less low-carb in order to keep insulin levels and calories low, without affecting his endurance performance. It's still low-carb, except around the workout.
Fruit doesn't affect insulin levels and is high in fiber and vitamins, so it made sense to allow some. Whole grains were added in to accomodate lifestyle, but they're intake is controlled to one meal so the overall effect on insulin over the entire day isn't that significant.

Does all that make sense? Low-carb diets get bashed for the wrong reasons usually. That is, people say they cause heart disease, have no vegetables or fiber, and limit energy. All of those are basically untrue if you do the diet correctly. People have just taken the idea of eating bacon at every meal and used that as a way to rip on them. Also, many people who hate low-carb diets don't do them correctly and find the very unpleasant for that reason. (The first few days are regardless, but you have to allow a little time for your body to shift from burning carbs as preferred fuel to fat as preferred fuel.) That doesn't mean they're for everyone, but by the same token, you won't catch me eating a vegan diet even though it works very well for dos and many others. I just wouldn't be able to stick to it.

In addition, nutritionists have taken one of the best parts of the low-carb diet and used it against the people who promote them: the idea that it auto-regulates. Ever hear a nutritionist explain why a low-carb diet works? They say it's simply low in calories. OF COURSE that's ONE of the reasons--but it's low in calories while keeping you satisfied. Is that a BAD thing???

Sorry for the rant. Couldn't help myself [img]smile.gif[/img]

08-21-2004, 08:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Adam Campbell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 401 My Profile	Vegetables have very few carbs. Most can go into ketosis while eating several servings a day. Of course, this doesn't include potatoes, but check out the ones I recommended. However, the diet I recommended to JP isn't a very-low carb diet, it's a low-carb diet. If it were a very-low carb diet, I would have cut out the fruit and grains (1-2 servings at most was the rec) as well as the carbs pre and post workout. I would have still said to eat as many of the recommended vegetables--you can eat five servings of most and three servings of nuts/seeds and still stay under 50g of carbs a day, which for most would make it a ketogenic diet. The diet I gave JP was more or less low-carb in order to keep insulin levels and calories low, without affecting his endurance performance. It's still low-carb, except around the workout. Fruit doesn't affect insulin levels and is high in fiber and vitamins, so it made sense to allow some. Whole grains were added in to accomodate lifestyle, but they're intake is controlled to one meal so the overall effect on insulin over the entire day isn't that significant. Does all that make sense? Low-carb diets get bashed for the wrong reasons usually. That is, people say they cause heart disease, have no vegetables or fiber, and limit energy. All of those are basically untrue if you do the diet correctly. People have just taken the idea of eating bacon at every meal and used that as a way to rip on them. Also, many people who hate low-carb diets don't do them correctly and find the very unpleasant for that reason. (The first few days are regardless, but you have to allow a little time for your body to shift from burning carbs as preferred fuel to fat as preferred fuel.) That doesn't mean they're for everyone, but by the same token, you won't catch me eating a vegan diet even though it works very well for dos and many others. I just wouldn't be able to stick to it. In addition, nutritionists have taken one of the best parts of the low-carb diet and used it against the people who promote them: the idea that it auto-regulates. Ever hear a nutritionist explain why a low-carb diet works? They say it's simply low in calories. OF COURSE that's ONE of the reasons--but it's low in calories while keeping you satisfied. Is that a BAD thing??? Sorry for the rant. Couldn't help myself [img]smile.gif[/img]