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Originally Posted by Simon C
I think raw strength carries over heaps to geared strength, and vice versa. So training both methods would get you stronger, but I don't see the point in being in gear any more often than I already am? And I can only see negatives from using it too often.
If you forgot your gear at home, it would completely ruin your training session if you had any plan to it at all... If you were planning on going heavy in gear, you wouldn't be able to lol.
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alright, i think you're agreeing with me? haha. You pretty much said what i was saying or trying to, i think.
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I could buy a loose super duper heavy duty 3-ply phenom, and touch 65kg in it if I wanted to 
For single ply anyway(may or may not be different for multi), there isn't that much difference between cheap gear and good gear, apart from the carryover. So I don't see a point in using cheap stuff. I went straight to top of the line, tight as possible gear, and it's fine.
I'd still buy top quality gear too. Just a size looser if I couldn't handle it.
Z-suits won't be much harder to learn than a hardcore or a centurion imo. And Blast shirts suck so much, its not funny - I'd probably struggle to get 5kgs out of one from what people tell me. BUT Alco never mentioned z-suits and blast shirts, he could have just meant a decent cheap second hand suit or something to start with. Still I don't see a point, apart from saving money lol.
I know for the single ply gear I've used, I've been able to jump straight into the top quality, tightest gear possible, and get good carryover right off the bat. I think for multiply this would be different for the squats.
I agree Frank that the difference in bench shirts isn't as much as squat suits, but it is still there!
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yea, i don't mean the quality, but getting second hand stuff is what i'd do. That's how i got a lot of the stuff i had (inzer stuff). And, i had a pair of cheap frantz briefs that i used to use when my hips hurt.
you pretty much said what i meant.