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Originally Posted by Allerious
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Originally Posted by John Izzo 
but in the end, it is about getting results for your clients.
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Really? People who do "functional training" don't get any noticeable results, ever. Because it is physically impossible. One cannot create a sufficient stimulus for physique change using inflatable balls and other toys. By definition, this type of training is all about targetting the stabilizers and there is no way for the prime movers to be overloaded. The people who do it get to look "cool" and "have fun" while they work out. They are paying for an expensive adult babysitter.
It's pretty simple:
Machines improve hypertrophy and aesthetics
Compound lifts with free weights improve performance
And everything else is a gimmick. I will give the standard disclaimer that some of these tools have an occasional use but everyone with half a brain knows that the marketing hype does not reflect the training necessity. |
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A stability ball leg curl cannot create a significant stimulus? What about a pushup on a ball strengthening the stabilizers in the shoulder girdle?
Client likes ball. Give client ball. If you don't, some lame trainer will. Because he ends up quitting the purist who wouldn't give him the ball and goes to some guy who has him squat on the ball, rather than use the ball in an effective manner. If one is a good trainer, maybe you're being irresponsible by not working the ball (or whatever) into the routine to keep him around to benefit from an otherwise stellar routine.
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Originally Posted by Dan Fanelli 
I agree with everything said. But ive been told that I should basically never have a client do the same workout twice. I would agree basically with this statement, in that they need to progress in some way, but it was stated to me more that they shouldn't do the same exercises or sequence of exercises twice.
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Great way of making sure that a beginner stays a beginner and doesn't improve on anything. From a marketing and client retention standpoint, it obviously works. If you're so pathetic that you can't get people to continue paying you, then force them to do it by making every workout different. Reading this kind of garbage makes me ill. Because the people who push it are trying to pass themselves off as knowledgeable trainers, when they are nothing more than marketers.
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Why does the personal training industry have this notion that basic exercises will get basic results?
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It has no such notion. The PT industry doesn't care about results, it cares about publicity, marketing and gimmicks. PT's have no idea what true results look like. The only thing that an average PT can do is to babysit someone through their beginner's gains.
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I want to think I'm reading your whole post wrong, but I'm just not sure. I think you phrased things badly, making it hard to tell whether you're agreeing, disagreeing, or showing solidarity with John and Dan. Maybe you could clarify?