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Old 08-19-2008, 12:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
Onericali
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Originally Posted by diamondpete View Post
Hi John,

Nice to see you posting again.

I think that you will find education theory addresses this topic. ( the good learner/ the good teacher). Trainers are very much involved with the whole "learning process with their clients, and I think that many of the precepts of curriculum design, managing the learning process and overall curriculum design have interesting parallels.
Linguists (Nunan & Lamb 2001) look at things that I think should be an essential part of "training" (be it language or strength training, etc) and which by extension contribute to an effective program for the client.
1) Learning-centeredness
2) traditional "teaching vs negotiated learning" (high/low structure teaching)
3)Needs analysis (orientation:proficiency or humanistic or specific purpose)
4) goals and objectives..

I think that to be a successful trainer you must be more that a "good trainer"; you need to be able to developed a negotiated program (curriculum if you will) within the constraints of your own ability/knowledge, the client's needs/abilities, the institutional restrictions, and social conventions.

Cheers

Peter
high low structure teaching? negotiated.. whoa, tihs sounds good, can i have what you read please?

&** to respond to the main point though, i think humor and directness for example will be disagreed on by everybody, in how to treat the client, because you forget we want differen tthings

some of us want their money
some of us want them to get better
some of us want the mental income
some of us want to just be normal

and all of us are a mix of all of those to different degrees

meaning we will disagree 50% of the time at least

it really sucks when my really passionate speeches for example, do nothing for someone, and they just laugh at me

i mean i could be crying, and some people just wont give a shit

but, if i care about others, it is about them, not me and i am exploiting them, in the fact that i want them to be happy

HEY ALL OF YOU DO YOU HEAR ME
LOOK ME IN THE EYESSSSSSSS
I AM GOING TO EXPLOIT YOUR HAPPINESS, AND TRY TO HELP YOU BE HAPPY

YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?????
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