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rwmct · 08-11-2008, 07:47 PM

Hmmm, I expected a thread on this before. Some random thoughts:

1) This thing has "humiliate the USA" written all over it. Payback for cozying up to Georgia in the first place. Pay back for the whole Yugoslavia thing. Payback for Poland and the rest of the former Eastern European states that used to be under Moscow's thumb.

2) And it IS humiliating. The Russians are pounding the crap out of one of our allies, and we can't do jack about it. We are tied up, and in no position to even influence this. I hope Bush can find a way to get some anti aircraft missiles in there and other arms that can inflict some losses on the Russians, but I doubt it. We look impotent and toothless, because we ARE impotent and toothless. One of the things that has bothered me about Iraq for some time is that we are so tied up there that nobody needs to fear us anymore. The Russians certainly don't, at least, not in an area right on their doorstep where our naval power cannot come into play..

3) Opening step in Moscow getting some of the former "satellites" BACK under its thumb.

4) Obama is staking out some dangerous ground here. He is absolutely correct that the status quo ante, with Russian so called "peacekeepers" on Georgian territory is a joke, but his statement that it is unacceptable to go back there, and real international peacekeepers are needed, may come back to haunt him. The Russians look like they are staying to me. Issue is: what is the next President prepared to do about it.

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rwmct Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 802	The Georgia situation Hmmm, I expected a thread on this before. Some random thoughts: 1) This thing has "humiliate the USA" written all over it. Payback for cozying up to Georgia in the first place. Pay back for the whole Yugoslavia thing. Payback for Poland and the rest of the former Eastern European states that used to be under Moscow's thumb. 2) And it IS humiliating. The Russians are pounding the crap out of one of our allies, and we can't do jack about it. We are tied up, and in no position to even influence this. I hope Bush can find a way to get some anti aircraft missiles in there and other arms that can inflict some losses on the Russians, but I doubt it. We look impotent and toothless, because we ARE impotent and toothless. One of the things that has bothered me about Iraq for some time is that we are so tied up there that nobody needs to fear us anymore. The Russians certainly don't, at least, not in an area right on their doorstep where our naval power cannot come into play.. 3) Opening step in Moscow getting some of the former "satellites" BACK under its thumb. 4) Obama is staking out some dangerous ground here. He is absolutely correct that the status quo ante, with Russian so called "peacekeepers" on Georgian territory is a joke, but his statement that it is unacceptable to go back there, and real international peacekeepers are needed, may come back to haunt him. The Russians look like they are staying to me. Issue is: what is the next President prepared to do about it.