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Old 07-15-2008, 02:20 AM   #195 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Depalma2002 View Post
I don't think Lyle was referencing this particular piece in regards to NROL, but rather the appearance of the SFP 1.0 protocol. I, like Racer Bill, did not come across it in NROL. However, there is a paragraph on the protocol in NROL4W on page 27 and this is probably the New Rules work that was meant. It is section right after the paragraph that states:

"Now, if you actually enjoy endurance exercise, and would miss it if you couldn't do any, we don't want to discourage you from that. But Alwyn has come up with a unique way of making it more effective."

The protocol is then mentioned with no credit to Lyle or calling it by the name Stubborn Fat protocol.
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This was my mistake. When Alwyn first told me about the fat-loss protocol, I mistakently thought he had come up with it, and wrote it up to suggest just that. He later told me he had gotten the idea from Lyle.

I can't say for sure, but I believe that I'd already written a draft of Chapter 3 when I learned this, although the rest of the book was far from finished.

My memory is imperfect, but I know I had the intention of giving credit to Lyle. In fact, when all this became controversial recently, I was surprised to realize that I hadn't. Somehow I'd conflated the memory of intending to give credit with a memory of actually putting a citation into the manuscript. If you look at the notes in the back of the book, you can see I'm not exactly shy about giving credit where it's due.

So it was my mistake, and I apologize for it.
But when you talk about sticking it in Chapter 3 & that you "mistakently thought he [Cosgrove] had come up with it", you were talking about NROL4W, not so? Then "He [Cosgrove] later told me he had gotten the idea from Lyle." Whenever "later" happened to be, it went uncredited in NROL4W.

But then, even later, Warp Speed Fat Loss: a new project which you had nothing to do with: SFP 1.0 reportedly shows up again, completely uncredited. Even if you were responsible for the uncredited appearance in the first book, you bore no responsibility whatsoever for its uncredited appearance in the second. That responsibility belonged to Cosgrove & Roussell.

-- Mel

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