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Old 07-13-2008, 10:48 PM   #181 (permalink)
Leigh P.
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So I have been holding my tongue on the situation mostly because I don't think it is any of my business. However, after my 100th email proclaiming that I "make a stand" on the subject I thought, "hey, why not" .

You know in high school when two people would get into a fight? Right in the middle of a common's area, right in front of everyone they "threw down" and put on a show for the school to see? Yeah this isn't about the fight.

This is about the people after the fight.

You know the people that would walk around who all of a sudden had an opinion on a situation they don't know? That all of a sudden are best friends with the two dudes that threw down? That had one conversation with one of the guys once at a locker two years earlier and then says they used to be friends with the person?

This is what this whole thing is reminding me of.

Here are the facts.

1-Lyle calls out Alwyn for using his material without permission or credit.

2-Alwyn admitted that Lyle's work was not credited and that he used it and is making advances to either fix it or rectify the situation with Lyle.

3-Lyle has yet to speak on how he feels about Alwyn's statement.

Everything else that everyone is talking is just speculation, rumors, or venting that has nothing to do with this actual situation but instead years of built up issues with "guru worship" and promotion.

While I can understand the frustration that you might have the lynch mob mentality and drama of it all is becoming very 2nd grade and is again based off of speculation and not facts.

Only a few people even know either parties or the situations at hand enough to half speak on it and I don't think 1 person posting here has talked to Lyle personally since Alwyn's response to the situation.

This is not a situation for people of the internet to decide. This is a personal situation between two people that they should be solving and I feel that they will come to a resolution about.

As for the argument of product....

If anyone actually thinks that Warp Speed sold because of a chapter on Fat Mobilization then you don't know a lot of people.

That is not a knock at Lyle's work either. He is brilliant and should get credited for such work but this situation does not affect the quality of the product being discussed.

As for the integrity issue, again there has not been a final say from Lyle on the issue at hand on how he feels on this situation. Alwyn's email may be a starting point to further talks, it may be good enough for him, it may mean shit and that is that. It could be that Lyle truly believes it was an accident or error. That worst case Alwyn just got sloppy and that is where you should start placing of judgment.

However, this is hardly a case to judge a entire man's career on when there isn't even an answer from the only person this situation should really be affecting.

This is obviously a case of the straw breaking the camels back and issue at hand with products, who is getting recognition, who isn't, etc.
It is washing over into this situation.

Also, this should not be seen as me believing in stealing someones work, this is just simply a case of I want to hear word from the actual people involved.

In not short, I would go back to class.
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