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Old 07-12-2008, 01:14 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Aoife View Post
I'm confused.

Since when do I have to ask for permission of the author of a work I'm going to use and cite in my research paper to use his work?
you don't have to ask permission, but you do have to cite it in the paper. As far as APA journal articles, we cite them in the text, and in the citations as well.

It's also not up to the author of the work you're citing to check your paper to make sure you didn't copy his work word for word and without a citation, pass it off as your own.


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Originally Posted by RobLL
And a little perspective - About 98% (guessing) of the book/DVD money goes to celebrity writers, who usually are not from the industry or from acadamia. The folk's in this 'cat fight' are looking at the scraps, and it does not help any of them.
actually, writers prior to the writers strike received 2.5-3% from DVD sales. After, they made 6%, i believe.

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Originally Posted by JP
My read of that was that when he found out about the oversight, he went into his e-book and changed it, but that he would have fixed it much earlier if Lyle had said something earlier.

Instead Lyle seems to have sat on this for some time. Since he has been so candid about this situation so far, maybe he will explain his logic on that one as well.

As a few others have pointed out, the way they should have handled it would have been to ask Alwyn to submit his chapter for final approval. Since Lyle didn't do that, he does share some responsibility for this.

They also both should have had a much more detailed discussion about the use of the text. Setting aside the omission issue (for which Alwyn has accepted responsibility), if you approve a body of text then - unless you specify otherwise - it seems that it would apply to future use, as long as it contained the segment of text that gave author credit.
Maybe they should have had a more detailed discussion about this, but again, if something is plagiarized, it is not the victim's fault. In retrospect, they probably should have signed something, but like someone else said, a lot of this stuff is kind of like an unwritten law, and you shouldn't need to have documentation saying, "don't take my work, word for word, and then not give me any sort of citation or credit."

I don't really get why Lyle would be cited in 2 of the texts, and not in this one? Does anyone know?
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