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Old 07-12-2008, 10:22 AM   #162 (permalink)
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From what I understand in this thread, AC asked Lyle how he would like to be credited in Afterburn 2. He said he would summarize parts of Lyle's work. He then possibly used (since we have not seen text from the other example Lyle claims) in a few other works, and in the last one apparently copied and pasted from Lyle's work and did not credit him.

In the case of Afterburn 2, he asked for how to cite the work. (I have not seen a comparison of those texts). Regardless of what this comparison would show, Lyle gave his preference for citation info (according to the emails). There was not mention of any future works and even if there were, it was a request for a citation, not permission to copy the work in question.

It is my opinion that Lyle was "wronged" in this case even if the "crediting" paragraph had been included. Because if the quotations in Lyle's blog are accurate, then it is clear that AC did not summarize Lyle's work. He, "at best", edited it.


As I read this thread, I kept finding myself surprised by how many people feel that Lyle needs to justify or explain his behavior. Or that Lyle is at fault for not calling AC (perhaps he did, I don't know) but I fail to see why the onus is upon Lyle to justify his actions when is he that has been wronged (I apologized for the generic term "wronged" but I do not wish this to get sidetracked by semantic/legal variances on a more specific word that I might choose.)

Someone said Lyle was at fault for not saying, "hey send me that chapter and I will have a look at it". The onus is not on Lyle to check the work of someone who has asked him how he would like to be cited for a summary of his work. But yet, it is Lyle's fault for not doing so?

I think that AC is so well liked here and gave many people a lot of help may be coloring views of this situation. The writer is ultimately responsible for what is published in his name, and that the work is properly cited, and that is AC and his co-author. Since it was AC that exchanged emails with Lyle, I suppose it fall to him.

BTW, I do not "know" Lyle or have any vested interest in this situation: in fact Lyle's forum is a bit too "biting" for my tastes. I bought one of Alwyn's products simply because I wanted to but something from him because of all he put into this forum, so if anything I am more "pro" AC.

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