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Originally Posted by UConnJulie
Manny, I didn't mean for it to sound like I thought this was hating ... I just meant that in the past there has been some hate for Alwyn.
This sounds/looks/smells like plagiarism ...
And honestly, does it really matter WHO did the actual writing? If you go to the long-form-letter marketing page, it reads like a letter FROM Alwyn. So if he didn't do the actual writing and the actual plagiarizing, he still allowed his name to be attached to it. And I find it hard to believe that he hadn't read UD2.0 and wouldn't recognize the copy/edit/paste job.
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I don't hate Alwyn but I do think he's overrated as a "fitness guru". Which isn't to say I don't like his work and it's not to say he's bad at his job or doesn't know what he's talking about. Just that there are quite a few who are as good or better who don't get the fan following because they don't spend so much time marketing themselves. I've seen a lot of people with good ideas but there are some who reach a guru worship status that is undeserved. I'd definitely say Alwyn is among them.
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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday
isn't this basically contradicting what he said previously?
Also, while the e-mail sounds very professional, it is not Lyle's responsibility to check into sources and make sure they do what is "proper citations" in any scholarly journal, and wasn't his responsibility to bring it to his attention.
I have no personal vendetta against AW or MR, but i find it hard to justify using word for word similarities in the text. They teach us this stuff throughout grade school, high school and college. You take the information, and you put it into your own words.
I know in apa style, we put the author's name and date of publication in ( ) after the information that you're using.
Even if AW/MR forgot to properly cite Lyle at the start, or the end of the book, you would think that you could give credit in the text where credit is due.
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Agreed. It looks like it's contradictory. It's hard to believe that, given the amount of material he used from Lyle's book, he would've made sure to acknowledge Lyle in the text and/or the back of the book for it. At the very least, Alwyn was lazy with his writing. Imo, it goes beyond that though.