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Originally Posted by PerfectMartini
Can anyone show me where in the letter Alwyn asked for permission to do anything? Where Lyle gave permission to do anything? Where Alwyn indicated that his work would be a paraphrase of Lyle's and not an original work based on Lyle's?
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From Alwyn Cosgrove
To Lyle McDonald
Date Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 8:45 PM
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I'm also working on Afterburn II.
I am going to put in a chapter on fat metabolism.
To be honest it will be a short summary - nothing in depth.
However your chapter in UD2.0 has influenced me the most, to the point where I'd feel uncomfortable not saying that directly in the text.
basically the chapter will be primarily a summary of your chapter plus a few others (your chapter is 2200 words, the summary is about 600- 750).
In other words I want to credit you directly in that chapter.
So how do you prefer it was referenced - direct to you and your site, or direct to the book?
AC
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From Lyle McDonald
To Alwyn Cosgrove
Date Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 8:53 PM
At 8:45 PM -0700 8/14/06, Alwyn Cosgrove wrote:
>I'm also working on Afterburn II.
>
>I am going to put in a chapter on fat metabolism.
>To be honest it will be a short summary - nothing in depth.
>
>However your chapter in UD2.0 has influenced me the most, to the point where I'd feel uncomfortable not saying that directly in the text.
>basically the chapter will be primarily a summary of your chapter plus a few others (your chapter is 2200 words, the summary is about 600- 750).
>
>In other words I want to credit you directly in that chapter.
>
>So how do you prefer it was referenced - direct to you and your site, or direct to the book?
Yes (all three)
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What I read was:
A: I'm going to write an original work that is based enough on your work that I ought to credit you. How should I credit you? Please not that I have not asked permission to do anything because what I have said I am doing would be legal without your permission. If I was just paraphrasing your work and repeating parts verbatim, that would be illegal without your permission, but I am making no indication that I intend to do that.
L: Here are instructions for crediting you. Along with this instructions you will find attached a complete lack of permission being granted.
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Alwyn said he was basing a chapter on Lyle's work and told Lyle upfront. He asked how to properly cite him and Lyle's response was "all three" not "don't even think about it."
Lyle knew it was happening and did not deny AC permission. Ideally, you want to get those words "I grant permission," but among people of understanding, these things are often unspoken, but inferred.