Okay, thanks for the info. Everyone seems to call everything something different and I can't always remember which exercises are the same thing, LOL.
BTW, I don't know if you ever mailed the TNT book that got sent back to you, but if you did it is lost somewhere in the system because it never got here. I wanted to let you know that I didn't just forget to tell you. Just thought about it when reading some posts from a while back.
I have been reading up on the logs I think are "fat loss focused" for the time being because I am trying to figure out what program to use when I finish Stage 7 in NROL4W. It's looming on finishing this week and I'm still working on the final decision--seems kind of pathetic to me because I usually have no trouble making decisions
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