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Originally Posted by sidonia

I am probably not the average housewife…

No, you certainly aren't, if what you claim is true. You are an anomaly. I'm not sure why you would expect me to treat your case as the norm,

Originally Posted by sidonia

You obviously didn’t grow up in my house…or perhaps you were alive circa the 1950’s? Women know hard labor…at least this one sure does. I don’t work on a farm…tho there are many women who I am sure do…and they SURELY know what hard labor is…but in my house…I was expected to lift and tote and bail just as much as my father was. I was not ever made to feel like a weaker woman…so I never was one. This is me tho…as I stated in the first response. Since I had no brothers it was me who helped move furniture, do outdoor work…etc. I also played every sport under the sun…bball, volleyball, softball, soccer etc…and you learn intensity and what it is to work there too.

Sure, some people had that kind of upbringing. But they generally aren't the types of people who get a gym membership in the first place, so your argument kind of cancels itself out. You know as well as I do that the fitness industry makes its money off sedentary housewives who have little to no background in athletics or physical labour.

Originally Posted by sidonia

This is because till the past quarter century this is what was crammed down our throats, touted by most exercise gurus, and it’s stuck in some women’s heads. It’s unfortunate…but luckily some of us women do know how to read…(since that doesn’t take much intensity or sweat goodness me)…and we have since corrected the misguided informational onslaught in time to workout the right way.

Absolutely not true. I'm sorry, but this just a fable. Nobody "told" women how to exercise. Females have a natural inclination to do cardio, while males have the same with respect to weight lifting. This is as observable among 15 year old high school students in gym class who have never read anything about training as it is among 30 year olds. This is not to say that women don't have any misconceptions about training - that they do, no doubt. But ultimately, they DO have an ingrained bias towards low-intensity aerobics. I mean, come on - aerobics, as an activity, is so overwhelmingly dominated by females - as weight training is by males - that to attempt to deny the obvious conclusion is absurd.

Originally Posted by sidonia

This comes down to education…and there are men guilty as hell of this one too…don’t even get me started.

Negative. A "bad diet" for a male is going to include things like hamburgers, subs, steak, pizza, etc. In other words, a solid mixture of fats, proteins, and carbs. At the very least, the male's diet will not be protein deficient.

But when women eat poorly, they consume things like bread, pasta, soy, snack bars, cereals, sweetened yogurt, cheese (low fat, of course), tofu, chocolate, etc...in other words, nothing but carbohydrates, all day long. Carbohydrate addiction is a major problem affecting all of society, but women fall for it the worst. I'm sure that everyone can name a handful of their female acquaintances who either are practicing vegetarians, near-vegetarians, or have been so in the past. If you tried making such a tally among men, you wouldn't pull up nearly as many names.

Originally Posted by sidonia

I will argue that I have seen and heard trainers complaining about men who are far more lazy…who whine…and don’t know how to suck it up. This again…is from what I have seen/heard…and certainly does not apply to all men by any means…I would not ever assume such a thing. My trainer knows me so well he knows he can walk away and I will continue squatting till he gets back. This babe…needs not be sat for.

Male whiners exist, but with females it's pretty much a given. You are clearly an exception to the rule. You should walk into a commercial fitness facility some time and record what you see. I can summarize it for you:

1) The majority of men will be engaged in weight training
2) The majority of women will be engaged in cardio training
3) Of the women engaged in weight training, they will not be training with loads remotely approaching those used by the men, and their intensity will clearly be lower.
4) Of the men engaged in cardio training, the majority of them will be using a higher intensity level than the women

Conclusion: Men work harder than women at physical activities

Originally Posted by sidonia

I feel after reading your post that perhaps you don’t like women so much…

I'm simply a realist. Most females prefer a bullshitter, as I've already pointed out. You will see, in due time, that I know what I'm doing when it comes to training.

You have to admit, the other members of your gender aren't doing much to improve the perception of women as a whole. At least, where fitness is concerned...