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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday
MJ by far
MJ led the bulls. You could see it in 94/95 when Pippen tried to lead the bulls to another championship, he couldn't do it. They had a great few seasons, but Jordan was just a leader.
You look at the lakers now without shaq, and they haven't won (yet). Shaq was more of a leader than kobe or at least more of a role player. Shaq won 3 with the lakers and then won with the heat as well. What did kobe do in 2005? They had a 3-1 lead and they blew it.
Yes, Kobe is good, and it's not all on his hands, but he is the leader of the team. If you want to be compared to the best, you gotta take the heat. MJ was the best clutch player, hands down. When it came to crunch time, he got the job done. Kobe hasn't.
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You cant use the shaq argument. How many rings did MJ win without Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Armstrong, Kerr, the list goes on. MJ was a great player who always had a great supporting cast. You gunna tell me MJ would of won a ring with Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and no center? Pshhhhhh. Plus Shaq rode Wade and the rest of the vets coattails in 06. He had one game in Chi town. Zo played a bigger role against the pistons and mavs than shaq did. Hell Twan outscored him in about 5 of the last 9 games of those playoffs.
I will say that Kobe is a rare breed. He plays on both sides and along with MJ and Payton, a guy who is an amazing on ball defender and can put up 20/10 in a night. they do not make guys like that often. Kobe gets a bad rap because of his history, but kobe is kobe. They guy can score at will. For fucks sake, he put up 81 in one game.