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Old 04-14-2008, 03:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
Espi
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You are missing the point.

To lose weight you have to eat less than you need.. upon which the general advice then adds: and .. move more.

How much more one needs to move is up to debate.

This is what I've posted in his log and will repost here.

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After years of spinning my wheels because I'd not be able to eat less calories.. I came to the horrible conclusion

losing fat =
1 DIET DIET DIET DIET
2 just enough HEAVY lifting to retain muscle
3 just enough extra cardio or metabolic work to burn more calories

Too much of 3 and I"m SPENT and not able to function properly.. unless I overeat. Hence why I mentioned spinning my wheels.
So, I really have really cut way back on doing tons of work in the gym and let my diet do the work for me.
I'm feeling more alive at home and get more work done.

Once in a while I disobey my own rules and tend to overdo it in the gym.. within 2 weeks I end up overeating or feeling like a zombie and get reminded why simply eating less , and doing FAR less in the gym but try to be more active with relatively easy activities (simple walking/cycling, even just going up & down the stairs for futile things)

No, it's not sexy. But it's what WORKS.
PS: recently there's a lot of people who are wearing a device, called a BodyBugg. They have come to the most 'horrific' conclusion, that simple household tasks and SS-cardio burns more energy than they had assumed. While OTOH, working out in the gym, be it lifting heavy weights, metabolic workouts or HIIT, burned LESS than they thought.

Most people wearing those devices, started changing their habits. They wouldn't necessarily do much less in the gym, though some of them cut out HIIT, but they would nearly always increase their non-strenuous activity level. Like paying more attention to cleaning their homes. Going for daily walks and making sure to walk over 10 000 steps a day. And they are actually seeing results from it.

So, it seems the pendulum is swinging the other way again. After years of damning SS-cardio and praising HIIT, it's back to the basics.
1 diet
2 heavy lifting
3 SS cardio
4 a very limited amount of HIIT cardio or metabolic work (complexes etc.) to prevent overtraining while underfed.
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