[Simon C]

Originally Posted by Frank.S

I dont like squatting in chucks, everytime i do my form is all messed up (and its not a depth issue, i can easily make depth with barefeet and no barbell). Maybe i need more practice in them, i do like them for deadlifts (even sumo). But, I like my frees better for squats (and bench..).

Hmmmm, I think the frees aren't nearly stable enough compared to chucks.

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

it's easier to reach depth when you have a heel and your flexibility isn't there. Not many ppl PLing squat in shoes with a heel though. Goggins is the only one that comes to mind. The reason being (at least in my experience), that when you squat in oly shoes, you don't open the hips NEARLY as much as with chucks. This is mainly because of the narrower stance, where you take a wide stance w/ PLing. When you take a wide stance, and open the hips, you can reach depth easier.

When i squat in oly shoes, and i try to open the hips more than i should, it irritates the side of my leg because you're not supposed to press out on the sides of an oly shoe. The heels are there to put the weight on the heel, and the transference of power (or something like that).

All this said, i hate squatting or doing anything in nike frees except for my everyday walking around shoes. I went to Chad's, and tried pulling in nike frees (even though they're supposed to be like barefoot walking), and was falling forward because of the heel on them. He told me to take the shoes off and pull in socks, and it worked like a charm.

Good pulls!

Thanks Yeah the the only thing I use my frees for usually is walking around normally, first time I brought them to the gym - never again.

As I said I think squatting with a heel means you sorta don't have to squat as low, but I'll try to find out more.

I might get some of these:
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Originally Posted by MindPower

Nice PR's man, and pulling barefoot is the only way to go

Thanks mate