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Old 02-17-2008, 03:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday View Post
yes, but with push presses, you are using more weight. So, IMO, more weight=more hypertrophy. Even though the shoulders aren't pushing past the hardest part, they are still taking a good load from the bar.
Correct. You get more ass hypertrophy from push presses than from military presses.

Why not do push jerks, then. I can do a lot more with a jerk than a push press.

The greater weight only counts if it's being applied in the same percentages or greater toward that muscle group. I can db snatch 105lbs, but I can't press that much. I can't even push press that much one handed. That db just sort of sails past the shoulder, then you dip down to catch it at the top. I miss all that shoulder work.

If I can push press a db of 95lbs, I'm getting only a small percentage of shoulder work (let's call it 75%?). If I can strict press 85lbs, that's 100% toward the shoulder because their is no leg drive assistance.

My percentages are totally a guess, btw.

Also, the stronger your PC is, the less work your shoulders get. So, while it's possible to have a large difference between Mil Press and Push Press, the percentage applied to the shoulders is likely to go down, too.
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