I understand that the studies (that show lots of high gi carbs and protein are good for us) are bad, because they were done on people in a fasted state. But, that doesn't mean that it's not better to have high gi carbs with your protein, does it?
I pretty much just eat food before and after a workout. I only have pwo drinks when I know I won't have food for a while. I'd like my method to be just as good as Surge or Gatorade and whey, but "those studies were crap" isn't proof or even evidence, it's just introducing doubt. Where can we read or hear about any comparisons?
I don't really need studies, since I doubt they would exist (what whole food manufacturer wants to prove that oatmeal is as good as dextrose and would fund such a study?). Anecdotal evidence from training clients with various methods is cool.
Also, on the honey vs. dextrose. Just go with convenience. How the heck is honey ever going to dissolve in a cold drink? We're talking about a relatively trivial amount of "sugar" in the pwo period, the lack of micronutrients in dextrose or table sugar, compared to honey, is nothing.
For that matter, just down your whey and eat a banana. Why does the "shake" have to be one thing? How about a thermos full of warm oatmeal? With a cup of cottage cheese or some greek yogurt. That sounds pretty good right now.
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