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Old 11-28-2007, 11:04 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Leigh P. View Post
No I am not saying that at all.

I am saying that if you are in a extreme deficit and not eating whole food or are eating a minimal amount of nutrients that this might not be the best time to test the water of your ultimate strength.

This is not a discussion about lifting and strength increase in a moderate deficit, this is a discussion about vigorous activity with lack of repair. I don't care if you are taking a few capsules of branched amino acids and some fish oil, if you are in a 40%+ deficit of daily caloric expenditure do a 1RM deadlift at your own unneeded risk.
How does calorie cycling play into all this? In your latest plan, there were days at various calorie levels. Obviously, you're going to lose more fat on the low days, but strength and energy suffers on that day and sometimes the day after. Then you have a higher cal day, which brings energy levels back up. Overall (weekly), you are probably still at a deficit. How does all this play with a person's desires to go for those PRs, hit the high energy activities, etc.

Diet and exercise plans range from so simple to very complex. Unfortunately, the complex ones often seem to make people think that things are more complex than they really are or need to be (raises hand sheepishly).

At the simplest level, eat less and keep up your moderate activity levels.

To a point, the less you eat, the less activity you can perform and still recover?

To a point, the less time you have for activity, the less you should eat to continue the fat loss?

The reverse seems to be true, as well. Maybe. To a point. We look at people who are lean with very high activity levels and see how much they are eating. We want that (raises hand). But, how much is genetic? JB works with mostly naturally lean, athletic, and strong people. Eat more and workout more seems to work for them. Especially when many of those clients HAVE to workout/train a lot. It's their sport or job.

I'm rambling, but you guys are used to that by now, right?

How much of a special diet and exercise plan is designed to keep the client interested enough, motivated enough, to keep it up for the long haul? Put me on a plan where I eat 1466 calories a day and you're lucky to see my next week.

Is the calorie cycling to keep interest? Not just yours, but UD2.0, TNT Plans D and E, The Anabolic Diet, The Cheat To Lose Diet, etc. Is it primarily to keep one motivated and/or because of a person's desires for more than one goal at once? Get bigger or stronger and leaner, at the same time?

Ramble over.
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