Very good point about the stroke/lat pull down example. I never thought of it that way. Hmm. Realizing this will probably increase my stroke effectiveness.
As for the kick..I will try it without the board. Should be interesting.
When I try doing the kick up and down from my hip..it just seems to be so inaffective in moving me across the water..while I can use my current kick and move pretty well (this was during my kick board experiments) But it wore me out pretty well too. I knew that what I was doing was not at all efficient and I must be trying the flutter improperly.
Like I said..I wish I could see it done from different angles to understand the correct movement.
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